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Posted on 07-13-04 11:52 PM Link | Quote
High school thing I didn't know about...I just assumed you had it like the rest of most public schools...course as I said, didn't know.
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Posted on 07-14-04 06:02 AM Link | Quote
Well, Apples, you can't expect your friend here to be exactly happy. I mean, she HAS apparently supported you when her mother said things about you. However, It is kind of expected of people (even those who trust you the most) to be shocked and confused when you say something like that about yourself. And it is very hard to win back their trust. At first, she will probably look at you as a different person. And it is very hard to explain yourself as well. However, the only one possible solution I can see. It may or may not be tough for you.(I can't tell through your info) But the solution would be to stay clean of anything. And you should be sincere; it's obvious you don't want to lose her as a friend. Maybe you should tell her you're sorry for not letting her in on such a thing. This all can only be possible if You are willing to change to win back her trust. I mean even though you said you don't drink or smoke often, I feel that telling her honestly that you don't drink or smoke at all is better than saying that you've been there for her. It's much more powerful to someone to say that you're willing to change for them than to tell them to take you for who you are. I remind you once more, this can only happen if you can give up these things(even though you don't do them often), to prove your honesty and devotion.

If you feel that she is not mad anymore, then I guess it's really not necessary. But it all depends, I guess.
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Posted on 07-15-04 03:05 AM Link | Quote
i disagree though, if you aren't doing anything wrong in the first place, why should you have to change for someone else? why can't they accept you for who you really are and what you've done? doing something like that and then having a fallout over it isn't exactly your shortcoming as again you did nothing wrong. honestly think its even a stretch to say that you mislead her. it was her coming to a conclusion on her own based on lack of information. i think that its her shortcoming to be able to see through the stereotypical images that you might now portray to her and no fault of your own. and should you change or be willing to change it doesn't mean anything if you meet her 100% of the way. if you don't meet eachother 50% of the way than she's not grown at all in the situation nor has she learnt from it.
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Posted on 07-15-04 03:58 AM Link | Quote
She is over it and that all that matters to me currently.

She wanted Shawn to come over because she just got a bicycle and wanted someone to ride around with her. Her mom said she couldn't because hes a guy. So apparently her mom is neither obsessed with the fact all guys are nothing but sex addicted perverts who will have sex with her daughter in a school's parking lot. That or her mom wants her to be a lesbain.

When Shawn didn't show, she called me again (She called Shawn first to ask where I was since I didn't pick up) and told me that her mom says I can come over on Sundays and Tuesdays (I believe it was tuesdays) or after 6PM...

Ok Yeah, Those are the days/Times her mother doesn't work but still kind of surpisenly she goes from badmouthing me a lot and fighting with her daughter about me (Friend's words) to saying its ok to hang around her daughter. Hmm...

If I don't come online after sunday... Presume the worse in other words.
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Posted on 07-16-04 12:34 AM Link | Quote

sounds like you're friend has got a bit of her mom in her and it sounds like your friend's mom is a fucking whack job!
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Posted on 07-20-04 09:18 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, it seems that the mom has a few issues. And Ranko never talks like that in person. I mean I've never seen that person have a rant like that. It's kinda funny. ha ha.

but anywhoose, if you want this person as a friend, you're going to have to put up with that families bullshit. Since the girl was raised by her mother, she is going to have at least a few ideas of the mother insider her own head, which will giver her a very skewed perspective. If you guys hang out enough over the years she'll probably get over this stuff herself. The mom's a lost cause unless you pull her out of a burning car.

What it seems to be the biggest difference: a liberal is a friend of a conservative. That's just what I'm reading from this situation. I could be wrong. With your long hair and facial hair you look like a negative liberal stereotype. The mucho conservative Mom sees you and slaps the label bam.

Judging people based upon appearance is bad, but understandable. Those kinds of impulses were born back with ancient peoples. When they saw that snake in the muck, they new to jump back and run, or kill it, or whatever. Even if they didn't know what a snake was, an instinct of sorts made them freak out. that impulse saved their life. the same thing kind of exist today as a instinct reinforced culture thing. they equate all of those scary different than me impulses into a negative stereotype and Bam- you've suddenly been proven guilty in the cour of public opinion. Sometimes a stereotype helps, most of the time it doesn't. In your case you got shafted. If you want to recreatoinally rock the gonja during special events and otherwise act responsibly, well, not my way but more power to ya'.
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Posted on 07-21-04 10:46 AM Link | Quote
Her mom seems to be coming around somewhat...

I went to their house on Monday. 11:30 to like 6PM. At first her mom wasn't happy I was there, actually she wasn't the whole time but after a while she got out of that whole "I hate you" type of attitude thing. I still couldn't hang out with my friend alone until her other friend came over but I was trusted to be alone with the both of them for 5 straight hour. And if anyone was wondering... We talked for those 5 hours. Than we watch TV and her mom is very talkive (Not to me, to the girls) but still manages to get me involved in to the convosations when ever she could. We than walked our friend to the end of the road where her mom picked her up, than me and my other friend walked back towards her house. And I went home.

Her mom still comes across as not liking me, and the reason why we went back to her house right away was because her mom told her she doesn't trust me alone with her. So she still doesn't trust me but I think shes starting to see me as less of a threat (Which is good).


My friend is over the whole pot/drinking on special days thing.

I'm going over there again tomorrow for the whole day. Gonna be me, her, her friend (who was there monday), and our friend (Whos a guy). So wee I guess?
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Posted on 07-22-04 05:22 PM Link | Quote
no, I wasn't wondering. but good luck. just make sure you don't laugh maniaclly at any point in time. that always makes people suspicious, whether your up to something or not.
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Posted on 07-24-04 03:36 AM Link | Quote
.....


So we (Me, Her, my friend and her neice) went to the park. She rode her bike, my friend laid in the shade and I sat next to him on the ground listening to her neice talk about school and shit. Her neice was talking about all these boys liking her and shit. You know just bragging about how shes popular (Shes 8). And I just nodded my head and agreed with her.

We went back to her (my female friend's) house, than me and my friend left. Apparently her sister flipped out on her and her mother because I was around her daughter. Ok... Nice to know i'm no longer a drug addict, now i'm apparently a pedophile also.

Nice
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Posted on 07-24-04 04:03 AM Link | Quote
It seems that some people never seem to understand something.
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Posted on 07-25-04 04:13 AM Link | Quote
Apple, as your friend I have to say:
This is bullshit, her mom has no right to judge you for how you look!
"Oh look that boy has long hair and pretty eyes, he must be a pothead pedophile!"
I think of you as a really nice person who can help people with their problems.
Just stand up to her mom and clear things up! It should be a crime to judge people for what they look like and not how they act.

Apple your a good friend and i never could see you as a drug addict or pedophile.
Hope you can sort things out man.
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