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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 61/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Originally posted by Tuvai Yes, but let's just say Acmlm's Board was poorly put together in the beginning. The thing that caused the posts table to grow so big were the post layouts. Since the beginning posts layouts were stored along with EVERY posts somebody made, with the purpose that old layouts were stored as soon as a user got a new one. It only recently got changed, as far as I know. After 3 years.  Na.. but the postlayouts are still stored. maybe somwhere else, but they are still stored. |
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Tuvai Permanently banned for account hacking. Level: 24 Posts: 50/211 EXP: 74894 For next: 3231 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 566 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by KawaiiImoto-e Originally posted by Tuvai Yes, but let's just say Acmlm's Board was poorly put together in the beginning. The thing that caused the posts table to grow so big were the post layouts. Since the beginning posts layouts were stored along with EVERY posts somebody made, with the purpose that old layouts were stored as soon as a user got a new one. It only recently got changed, as far as I know. After 3 years. Na.. but the postlayouts are still stored. maybe somwhere else, but they are still stored. Yes, they are obviously stored. But the way they're SUPPOSED to be stored is for example in the users table (where all other information such as user ID, email address, etcetera), that way it will only need to be stored once, instead of being stored sepparately along with every post made. |
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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 62/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Originally posted by Tuvai Originally posted by KawaiiImoto-e Originally posted by Tuvai Yes, but let's just say Acmlm's Board was poorly put together in the beginning. The thing that caused the posts table to grow so big were the post layouts. Since the beginning posts layouts were stored along with EVERY posts somebody made, with the purpose that old layouts were stored as soon as a user got a new one. It only recently got changed, as far as I know. After 3 years. Na.. but the postlayouts are still stored. maybe somwhere else, but they are still stored. Yes, they are obviously stored. But the way they're SUPPOSED to be stored is for example in the users table (where all other information such as user ID, email address, etcetera), that way it will only need to be stored once, instead of being stored sepparately along with every post made. No, no, I mean, they are still stored for every post. Edit yours, and see. |
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Tuvai Permanently banned for account hacking. Level: 24 Posts: 51/211 EXP: 74894 For next: 3231 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 566 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Yup, I noticed; thought it already had been changed but I was wrong apperantly. I highly recommend to Acmlm to change that as soon as possible though, obviously it's not a good thing for the database to store something along with EVERY post, while it can be stored just once. ALL other boards out there do that, and there's a reason for it, an obvious one. |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81  Posts: 172/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| I think it's like that in 1.8, my SQL files for posts are extremely long in length. But yeah, like everyone said, the files got erased, not hacked.  |
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Tuvai Permanently banned for account hacking. Level: 24 Posts: 55/211 EXP: 74894 For next: 3231 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 566 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by Xeogred I think it's like that in 1.8, my SQL files for posts are extremely long in length. But yeah, like everyone said, the files got erased, not hacked. Yup, 1.8 and below still store post layouts along with posts, don't know about 1.9 though as I never used that copy. |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 180/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by Tuvai Originally posted by Xeogred I think it's like that in 1.8, my SQL files for posts are extremely long in length. But yeah, like everyone said, the files got erased, not hacked. Yup, 1.8 and below still store post layouts along with posts, don't know about 1.9 though as I never used that copy. Hopefully not, I usually have trouble restoring a backup of posts into MySQL. Usually blanks out.  |
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Chaos Force Panser Level: 29 Posts: 90/332 EXP: 147860 For next: 25 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 21 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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| heh, I highly doubt anyone hacked it. It was just an error on Overclocked side... | |||
macks Level: 45 Posts: 44/900 EXP: 659955 For next: 209 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 22 hours |
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I've always liked the fact that the layouts are stored somewhere so that you can see all the old and crappy layouts people had back when they wre n00bs  But of course, I would understand if they changed that. |
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gnkkwinrrul Dry Bones Level: 39  Posts: 32/647 EXP: 402054 For next: 2717 Since: 03-15-04 From: LYKEOMGIMFROMSOMEPLACE???? Since last post: 81 days Last activity: 40 days |
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| Why would someone want to hack the site? It would basically prove no purpose... |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 37/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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 It could have been a hacker that deleted the DB, but I kinda doubt it. Maybe a virus that got detected by the AV after hitting a few files. Personally though, I think it was a glitch. Maybe a server screwup, maybe something went wrong in the board's code, made the database start growing really friggin fast, and the server deleted it. All I know's it wasn't deliberate. (I emailed them about it, and they said they'd never heard of it happening.) I would like to know WTF happened though... (edited by HyperHacker on 03-16-04 01:22 PM) |
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Kwan Doesn't have a valid sized userpic. ||bass will be pissed :(((((((( Level: 50  Posts: 88/1137 EXP: 937111 For next: 10206 Since: 03-15-04 From: Durkadurkastan! Since last post: 22 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| Tell her to hack this one. You know. Just to prove it. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 82/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| I could have SWORE we confirmed it was Ninja AE already. What now? | |||
Acmlm Torosu heh Level: 51  Posts: 115/1173 EXP: 981994 For next: 31944 Since: 03-15-04 From: Somewhere that isn't outside of Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Well, this is what I'm currently suspecting: - PHPMyAdmin was restricted by IP, but one of the changes in the IP list apparently broke the restriction and everyone could get in (and of course, I didn't notice since it just let me in like it normally does) - For some weird reason, PHPMyAdmin could show up in search results in Yahoo, even though the URL for it was nowhere to be seen on any page - Maybe someone found it there, got in, and felt like deleting everything just because he could I know for sure it's not the admins at ZTNet who did it, because one of them emailed me and didn't know either how it happened (he's the one who restored the 4 month backup) ... Oh well, the restart made the board clean again and easier to upgrade, so there'll at least be some good coming from it As for the way post layouts were stored: - Beginning: everything is in one single field - 1.7: headers and signatures are in separate fields for posts, allowing them to be disabled - 1.9: post layouts are stored in a separate table, and only once (per layout) no matter how many times you use it, but this was only implemented for posts - 1.92: same, but now it also works in private messages and announcements A lot of the space in the old database was the post layouts from old versions of the board |
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 125/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Legion I could have SWORE we confirmed it was Ninja AE already. What now? OMG NINJA AE, POKEMONLOVER, AND MANDA GOT TOGETHER WITH TIKAL AND HACKED TEH BORED! OMGOMGOMG!  Truth be told, at this point, I don't care how it happened. We started anew and we're going to be a lot tougher on morons. I like how it's starting thus far. |
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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 64/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Originally posted by Acmlm Well, this is what I'm currently suspecting: - PHPMyAdmin was restricted by IP, but one of the changes in the IP list apparently broke the restriction and everyone could get in (and of course, I didn't notice since it just let me in like it normally does) - For some weird reason, PHPMyAdmin could show up in search results in Yahoo, even though the URL for it was nowhere to be seen on any page - Maybe someone found it there, got in, and felt like deleting everything just because he could I know for sure it's not the admins at ZTNet who did it, because one of them emailed me and didn't know either how it happened (he's the one who restored the 4 month backup) ... Oh well, the restart made the board clean again and easier to upgrade, so there'll at least be some good coming from it As for the way post layouts were stored: - Beginning: everything is in one single field - 1.7: headers and signatures are in separate fields for posts, allowing them to be disabled - 1.9: post layouts are stored in a separate table, and only once (per layout) no matter how many times you use it, but this was only implemented for posts - 1.92: same, but now it also works in private messages and announcements A lot of the space in the old database was the post layouts from old versions of the board Faszinating how much space plain Text can use. |
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 127/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Imoto: There's a difference between a post which shows a lot of effort to convey an idea, and one that does not. There are good points Acmlm made in that post you didn't get, I guess |
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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 66/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Originally posted by Yiffy Kitten Imoto: There's a difference between a post which shows a lot of effort to convey an idea, and one that does not. There are good points Acmlm made in that post you didn't get, I guess I get the good points, but didn't feel to reply to them. I just stated that Text can use much space. If you copy it a tousend fold, everything small can grow big. It may be that someone played with adressbar of his or her browser to get into PHPAdmin. |
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 128/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| It isn't that his text is big, it's that yours is tiny Note: You may need IE or a browser that actually understands image headers to view that as a jpeg and not a text document (Right click: Save as tiny.jpg if you must) |
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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 67/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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| In plain Text: My font is too small? EDIT: Better? (edited by KawaiiImoto-e on 03-16-04 02:17 PM) |
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