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Schwa

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Posted on 07-03-04 07:48 PM Link
I hear the word 'nerd' associated with Aspurger's quite a bit. I wouldn't exactly consider every person with Aspurger's a nerd, but realistically, what do the two have in common? Low social skills, obsessions over things, high intelligence (usually). I've been told that many young people with Aspurger's become nerds for those reasons. Not to offend anyone in here, but I'd have to agree, looking at the realism of it.

I wouldn't consider myself a nerd, as I do have some good friends. I'd consider myself a little overrightous, because, well... I do have some good friends. Currently, all my friends are Special Ed. I actually have this thing against most normal people (at my school, for example), looking at the way they act towards me and others like me. That's why I came up with the idea that everyone with Autism is my brother or sister.
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Posted on 07-07-04 06:30 AM Link
Actually, there is a guy in my class with Aspergers Syndrom. He doesn't do too well in school because I don't think he understands the concept of setting goals, but it's quite easy to tell that he's brilliant by the way he approaches a conversation (that might have to do with the fact we are in a gifted class but alot of the other students can't speak for shit (vocabulary-wise)). He is also an extremely prominent person (I guess becuase of his Aspergers), so he is often the center of attention. Happily, he has many friends and people that like him because he is so god damn hilarious (not due to his syndrom). He was actually student council president for a while. I guess he is a rare case of Aspergers actually working out to a person's benefit.
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Posted on 07-10-04 08:32 PM Link
Rare?! Hmm... There's a problem I have with telling people about Aspuregr's. They always take it as a bad thing. Let me tell you something, guy. Having Aspurger's is better than not having it. You're one of the few folks in the world who get to see the world in a different way. You experience things not everyone gets to experience. At my school, I'm in the Special Education program-- that's something not many get to go through. So I don't really care to hear you imply Aspurger's to be a bad thing.
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Well said, Schwa. Nobody should define a "good" or "bad" life until they've lived it themselves. You're obviously comfortable with Aspurger's, and I'm guessing you don't like it being called a disability because of what it's done for you. I've never really heard much about autism before this thread, so I'm speaking uninformedly. I'm not sure if I have or had it, but I see many of the symptoms you've mentioned in me. Adults respect me more than children do, I get high marks in my school, I have low social skills and am picked on, though not as much as I was in elementary school. But at the same time, many of these things are common among people, so I refuse to give a self-diagnosis. I would also like to compliment your ideal that everyone with Autism is your brother or sister, that's very noble.
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i also have aspergers syndome. i'm also overly obssed with programming which is something that is usually a sign of aspergers. but like people have been saying its has its pros and cons. Trust me its not that big a problem. my school can be hell though because i always get high marks and so get picked on (hang in there the rumour is that reach the age of about thirty and life will be better thn for average poeple. anyway most poeple diagnosted with it are usually more intelligent that most anyway here r to websites you mite want to look at to do with aspurger's symdrome

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My family thinks my brother has Autism... some very rare form that is not severe. He is 8 years old. He has many friends. His intelligence surpasses everyone else in his class-- he reads at 5th grade level, but is in 2nd grade. He can even run MS-DOS. He knows more about outer space that me. He does not like change- we went on vacation for 12 days to Disney World, and he didn't enjoy being away from home until the last few days. He won't compromise when he wants something. If anything doesn't go his way, he has a crying fit. I'm learning to cope with his condition... but it's still painful if I beat him on MarioKart... he hates to lose. He will be checked for Autism this winter. They're taking him to a children's hospital. Those are some things I know about his case of it. It's hard to live with.
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my mom teachs kids with autism and she says that its really hard to make them learn new things and to keep their attention focused on her. i don't know too much about autism but i know my mom's exhausted everyday she comes home from work.
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To Kahunah, my advice to you is ask her what the details are about Autism, if you really must know. Or I could just tell you... Yeah, that works. I think what your mom is referring to is Fully Autistic. People with the highest level of Autism don't talk at all. In fact, they almost never communicate in any way to others. But watch, I'm about to prove myself wrong. Several posts ago, I mentioned a kid who rode my bus home who was fully Autistic, and he talked... but the only two people this kid ever talked to were his uncle and the bus-driver's assistant. And he spoke rarely. Hardly at all. My conclusion from that is he only talks to people he really trusts.

I do have a form of Autism, but think of my kind as the "high-tech" version. You can tell I share some of the same traits with those who are even fully Autistic. For instance, I don't like spending time with people. I'd rather be alone than with someone (there are very rare occasions when it's the opposite). There's a similarity... people who're fully Autistic don't communicate; I do, but would rather not. Seeing how people who're fully Autistic do communicate somewhat, I would think it's safe to say that we're similar in that department.

To KsoftFusion, I think your brother has Aspurger's. That's very close to how I was like when I was his age. I was extremely self-centered, couldn't handle losing at anything, extremely smart, but had no friends. In fact, I had absolutely no friends from Kindergarden until 7th Grade. But that's another story. However, I'm the oldest child in my family, so I have the responsibility of treating my little brother and sister properly. Let me tell you, when you're the oldest, and you have power in a sense, AND you're disfunctional like me, it's very, very painful. Every time I wrong them by doing something anti-leaderlike, it pains me so bad I tremble all over.
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Posted on 07-13-04 03:00 AM Link
schwa maybe you're just REALLY REALLY introverted and you aren't autistic at all. i've got many friends who are REALLY REALLY introverted and much like you they'd rather be alone or with other introverted people. at parties and what not its a challenge to get them to attend and when they do they just kinda sit off to one corner by themselves and talk only when approached by others.
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Posted on 07-13-04 05:37 AM Link
Originally posted by Kahunah
schwa maybe you're just REALLY REALLY introverted and you aren't autistic at all. i've got many friends who are REALLY REALLY introverted and much like you they'd rather be alone or with other introverted people. at parties and what not its a challenge to get them to attend and when they do they just kinda sit off to one corner by themselves and talk only when approached by others.


Read the rest of the thread: I doubt Schwa'd claim he has it without confirmation, and I doubt the discussion would continue for this long if he didn't.
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Not all people are autistic in speech. I’ve got a friend whos intelligent and is autistic in writing he hates to write. But he’s not dyslexic. But there are many different types of autism. As somebody said
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Posted on 07-13-04 08:28 PM Link
Originally posted by KsoftFusion
My family thinks my brother has Autism... some very rare form that is not severe. He is 8 years old. He has many friends. His intelligence surpasses everyone else in his class-- he reads at 5th grade level, but is in 2nd grade. He can even run MS-DOS. He knows more about outer space that me. He does not like change- we went on vacation for 12 days to Disney World, and he didn't enjoy being away from home until the last few days. He won't compromise when he wants something. If anything doesn't go his way, he has a crying fit. I'm learning to cope with his condition... but it's still painful if I beat him on MarioKart... he hates to lose. He will be checked for Autism this winter. They're taking him to a children's hospital. Those are some things I know about his case of it. It's hard to live with.


He does sound quite a bit like I was at that age. But I have an even lighter case, they said I had a high-functional case of Aspurgers, which is sorta high case of Autism, so...

BTW, when did everyone find out they had Autism/Aspurgers? (if they know for sure) . My parents knew about it early (when i was 4 or 5) but i didn't know until i was in 4th grade.
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Posted on 07-14-04 06:58 AM Link
Originally posted by KsoftFusion
when did everyone find out they had Autism/Aspurgers? (if they know for sure) . My parents knew about it early (when i was 4 or 5) but i didn't know until i was in 4th grade.


Well, I have the OCD. My parents know it since I'm 4.
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Posted on 07-14-04 07:30 AM Link
Originally posted by Schwa
Rare?! Hmm... There's a problem I have with telling people about Aspuregr's. They always take it as a bad thing. Let me tell you something, guy. Having Aspurger's is better than not having it. You're one of the few folks in the world who get to see the world in a different way. You experience things not everyone gets to experience. At my school, I'm in the Special Education program-- that's something not many get to go through. So I don't really care to hear you imply Aspurger's to be a bad thing.


I have no problem with people who are uh... "blessed" with Aspergers. I think people automatically interpret it as a bad thing because of their ignorance towards it. I wasn't implying it to be a bad thing, I was sharing a second-hand experience at how a case of Aspergers can be be accepted.

Originally posted by Schwa
Having Aspurger's is better than not having it.


If you think being socially inept is better than having typical social skills then you are mistaken.


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Posted on 07-14-04 08:19 AM Link
Originally posted by Gb boy

If you think being socially inept is better than having typical social skills then you are mistaken.



I'm socially inept. I'm not autistic. I'm of high intelligence. I have a few incredibly close relationships that I value deeply and that do so for me. I don't do well with large groups of people. I see no problem with the way I live.
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Posted on 07-14-04 08:44 AM Link
Ok Grey and Schwa you misinterpreted everything I posted. Nothing is wrong with Autism/Aspergers. However, being Autistic is not better than being not Autistic. Schwa, I am also in spec ed. I am in a gifted class. That is classified as spec ed. And it's not any kind of special experience other than the fact you become a fairly eminent student.
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Posted on 07-14-04 08:53 PM Link
Yes, but what you seemed to be doing was just looking at the bad parts of Asperger's, that of the "diminished" social skills. If Schwa's lot in life has benefited from it, then good for him, but the problem with relating an experience is that that experience isn't the same as anyone else's. However, you were right. I was too hasty in my response, and I'll try to better see your side of the situation when next it comes up.
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yeah i asked my mom about the autism she deals with and she confirmed for me that she deals with people who have all different types of autism. she kinda described it as severely lacking if having any at all of a given skill, like talking, reading, writing, thought processing, attention span, dealing with emotions and what not. so now i'm a little less ignorant to what autism actually is. i guess i didn't really know what it was and just kinda threw it in the the clump of diseases people have that i just kinda thought were critically disabled.
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To Kahunah, it's strange how people Autism to be a disease. I was telling someone about Aspurger's once, and she said, "Well, I hope you get over your disease." Talk about clueless! If there's a person out there who thinks social problems comes from a disease, they need a head-scan.

To GbBoy, I have a bone to pick with you. Your argument is that "Being Autistic is not better than being not Autistic". You said if I think being socially inept is better than typical social skills, then I'm mistaken. Well, I'm sorry, but Autism is a LOT more than just poor social skills! In fact, Aspugers can be considered "the agents" of Autism. We're the people that give the teachers and scientists direct information about Autism. I have been to the University of Washington, and I had them do FOUR tests on my brain to get results which they'd use in a professional report about Autism! I had an MRI scan, which I got paid $50 for. I wore a hat with a lens on it that tracked the coordinates of my pupils for a visual test, which paid me $25. I let them attach a network of electrodes to my head for a test on my brainwaves, which I got 25$ from. And I let them attach electrodes to my face for a sensory test, $30. I'm also due for a 5th test, another brainwave test, which I'll get $25 more from.

Here's the deal. My bretheren, who are fully Autistic, aren't blessed with some of the things I'm blessed with, like people who understand them. That's where I come in. My job is to be a symbol for them, Gb boy. I symbolize those who need a symbol. My brothers and sisters, Gb boy. This is something you'll never understand, I'm afraid, and because of that I don't care to hear your negative opinions about my blessing of Aspurger's. Get the facts before flaming. And by the way, being Special Ed doesn't always mean you have Autism.

*turns to stunned crowd* Anyone else?
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Posted on 07-15-04 04:49 AM Link
Fuck, Schwa! I am not saying anything negative about Autism, I am not trying to start a flame war or any other bullshit you're talking about. Ok, by what you have explained, having Asperger's seems to obviously have some advantages and some disadvantages. As does not having it. Your just making it sound like an incredibly wonderful thing. It isn't a case of "I have Asperger's, I'm better than you, bla." or "You have Asperger's, I don't, I'm better than you, bla." Of course there is more to Autism than poor social skills, which you have clearly explained in all your lengthy posts. So Schwa, stop interpreting my posts as flaming, or disregard to your blessed Autistic. THAT IS NOT MY INTENTION.
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