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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 2194/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Heh, they did a retranstlation of the bible in Sweden. They translated it from the orginal language. And there were alot of small changes, mostly grammar. But there were alot of them. At least it got more like the "orginal bible". I find religions find, as long they don't go overboard... |
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Jesper Busy, busy, busy. Level: 69 Posts: 405/2390 EXP: 2856000 For next: 13743 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden. Since last post: 176 days Last activity: 79 days |
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Originally posted by SionJesus was a Jew. For the sake of an argument, let's assume Jesus was God's son. His human form was still a jewish man. This kind of mistakes with some religions shooting themselves in the foot by completely ignoring actual facts is what keeps me an atheist. Diety or no diety, logic is pretty hard to argue with. Second of all, stop saying "the Jews did this, the Jews did that". If you absolutely HAVE to point out a majority of some sort to blame it all on, the population of Jerusalem did it, not every Jew on earth. |
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SupaKat Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 25/36 EXP: 4974 For next: 1011 Since: 05-21-04 From: Ontario, Canada Since last post: 502 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Yeah, Sion. Jesus was a Jew. He was the son of God, but his parents were Jewish, which technically made him Jewish. That's good they translated it from the original. I plan on buying a new one soon that's more accurate. The one I have right now is accurate, but it's not a KJV. I have one example of a mistranslation that my pastor mentioned, I dont have my book at the moment, but if anyone wants to know it, they can PM me and I'll send it to them. |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 350/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by SupaKatActually, no. You only have to believe in jesus and his words. You don't have to follow them. Originally posted by SupaKatThis kind of thing makes me mad. Can't you do what Fyxe said? Why do you have to say "OMG IT'S THE TRUTH REALLY"? Can't you just say "that is what Christians believe."? It's so less agressive this way... |
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DahrkDaiz Red Super Koopa Acmlm's Mosts 2005 Best ROM Hacker Level: 45 Posts: 178/885 EXP: 643520 For next: 16644 Since: 03-15-04 From: K-Town Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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I agree with knuck. Supakat's attitude is basically what's made a lot of non-Christians despise it. The Christian history is particularly interesting in that during the Crusades, when they started to "take back" Muslim inhabitted territories, some areas actually wanted to stay in Muslim territory because the Catholic church was/is very unforgiving for heresy and the Muslims were much more tolerable to not only Christians but all religions. They had to pay a small tax and they could worship whatever they wanted in the privacy of their own home without having papal officials busrting down their door and stripping them of their life's work (and I'm not speaking of a "mis-understood" point of view, this is facts I've read in 2 semesters of Medieval Studies. I've had to read 10 books total on this crap so I am rather well read on the subject). Of course this was the extreme side of Christianity, but there was a LOT of it seeing how most Crusades were self lead by peasants, kings, etc (though the papacy did try to use the Crusades as a way to earn fame, like Innocent the III did). Of course this was long ago but human instincts, emotions and interactions don't change much, they just mold into other forms... | |||
alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 736/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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First off, Fyxe. You know nothing of the faith. I wish that people would be a little more studious of things. Dogmatically, those who do not follow God are not sent to Hellfire in the malebolges or the pits. No, those who are virtuous are sent to Limbo or Purgatory, in which they either live in bliss but sadness or repent their sins to achieve the heights of the Mountain to reach the ultimate happiness of sitting next to the Christ and God. Also, DahrkDaiz, the Muslims were tolerant to very few religions. They killed Hindus, Buddhists and other pagans. The only faiths that they allowed were monotheistic: Zoroastrianism, Judeaism and Christianity. Knuck, Christians that are baptized are supposed to follow the Laws of God and the words of the Christ. All true Christians are baptized. It is much like the Muslim Shahada. Edit:: This is all coming from a disgruntled ex-altar boy who is not a proponnent of Catholocism, but rather, just a person who hates ignorance. (edited by EvillerLegion on 06-08-04 08:21 PM) |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 67/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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Knuck: Christians that claim faith in Christ but don't follow his teachings are hypocrits and not true Christians.... in the epistle of James he goes on and on about how faith without works is dead.... to have true faith requires doing as well as believing.... so what are the works? following the commandments that Jesus set forth, love thy neighbour.... dont' steal, dont' kill etc. oh, and there are mistakes on the bible, or "contradictions".... what Paul saw and heard on the road to Damascus is told in 2 different ways to 2 different audiences.... does that make either wrong? maybe not.... but there is a discrepency there.... |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 739/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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geogree, you're absolutely right. But let us not discount the glaring contradictions of only the Bible. The Buddhist texts state that no man be above another, yet those in the presense of the Dalai Lama are asked to not stand full height. As no man should stand taller than Buddha. Then there are the vast contradictions of the Quaran (which, are mostly interprative errs), the Torah scrolls of Judaic laws, the endless annoyances of Shinto-Zen beliefs, and finally the horrid mishap that is modern Paganism. | |||
geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 68/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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wow.... well, heh, I was just pointing out one little thing but apparently we can find these things in every(many) religion(s) it's obvious that religious texts aren't perfect, and shouldn't be held in that regard.... they should be used to learn from, not to follow strictly.... makes sense to me that way at least |
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SupaKat Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 26/36 EXP: 4974 For next: 1011 Since: 05-21-04 From: Ontario, Canada Since last post: 502 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by DahrkDaiz My attitude? I wasn't giving an attitude I was just saying that technically it is the truth in the Christian belief (happy?), and it's not right to go up to people and say it. I can see why people become angry at Christians when they say stuff like that to people. And it does say to follow Christ's teachings as a Christian. If you continue in (abide in) my word, then your are truly disciples of mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free |
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Super Sion You BlockHead! Level: 70 Posts: 890/2472 EXP: 3002513 For next: 13298 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yo Mommas House Since last post: 29 min. Last activity: 5 min. |
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*claps* Thats what Im talking about, I personally try to live as close to Christs techings as possible, but thats probably all I do. I really dont go into further detail with Christianity, I basically do what I think is expexted of me and what is just moraly right. |
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