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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 708/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by CymoroOriginally posted by Sion Historical fact: The High Priests were threatening to cause an insurrection against the Roman occupancy if they didn't kill Jesus. |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 339/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by EvillerLegion Originally posted by Cymoro Definition of kill: v. intr. 2. To commit murder. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=kill I don't think that the high priests even touched in Jesus.  |
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Vystrix Nexoth Level: 30 Posts: 163/348 EXP: 158678 For next: 7191 Since: 03-15-04 From: somewhere between anima and animus Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| jesus was resurrected. hence the death was temporary; it wasn't so much a "sacrifice" as a "temporary bummer". it'd be like "sacrificing" your computer only to have it returned to you three days later. I'm not well-versed in the story of the bible, but just a point about which I'm curious: when Jesus died, apparently he descended into Hell until he was resurrected. ... Jesus went to Hell? why? some sort of 'tough love' or enlightenment thing? of course, that only compounds the 'sacrifice' part... not just to endure the torture and crucifixion in this world, but also to go to Hell. of course, he still came back. not like he actually died (as in, staying dead and not just as a "time out") or stayed in Hell. (do correct me if I'm wrong on the above points; like I said, I'm not well-versed in the bible story) Originally posted by Sion that's viewing his actions outside a religious context, and in doing so he turned out to be all right. hence, he's all right (i.e. I agree with you). (and 'decency' is spelled correctly. couldn't hurt to use apostrophes in words like "couldn't" and "that's", though.  )(edited by Vystrix Nexoth on 06-03-04 12:58 AM) |
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Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84  Posts: 577/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Yeah he went to hell to save all those people that went to hell before him that believed in god and all that stuff I think. Oh one other thing he got wrong is that it is thou shal not murder not kill. Kill murder are very different. You can kill something but not murder it. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 1018/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Using that logic knuck, I could hold you at gunpoint and force you to kill someone and that would make me completly innocent? | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 2043/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| It does concern me when people say that the jews killed Jesus. Sure the ones who wanted him killed was jews. But it was just some of them... not all of them. ~_~ | |||
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Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL   Level: 67  Posts: 596/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Legion The thing is, you aren't actually doing the action of killing. |
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Super Sion You BlockHead! Level: 70 Posts: 697/2472 EXP: 3002513 For next: 13298 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yo Mommas House Since last post: 29 min. Last activity: 5 min. |
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Those apostrophes take to long to type. You all know what Im sayin so dont complain. I never knew Jesus went to Hell! Who ever was for the crusification of Jesus is just a guilty as the people who drove the steaks through his palms in my eyes. |
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Smeg4Brains Red Koopa Level: 20  Posts: 64/138 EXP: 39611 For next: 2828 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 262 days Last activity: 242 days |
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| Isn't the first commandment somthing about not worshiping anoter god?? Thats just gready, taking all the religos people for himself or sending them to hell! | |||
Lilmario Hoarder crappy custom title! Level: 31  Posts: 34/367 EXP: 171741 For next: 13622 Since: 03-15-04 From: The land of Leprachauns <3 Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 8 hours |
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| this guy does have a point. I mean, he even gives bible references. What about the other 10 commandments? Why doesn't anyone take them into consideration? I'm questioning my catholic faith now. I never knew I was praising an evil murderer... | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 722/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Lilmario No, he doesn't have a point. You have to remember that the reason why Christ went to Hell was to show the beginning of a new faith of God. And giving Biblical references? I can pull a random Plato quote out of my ass and say that it proves that Plato preaches anarchy. Would I be right? Fuck no. Quoting a book improperly means jack shit. |
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RoboticParanoia Cheep-cheep Level: 23  Posts: 52/184 EXP: 60582 For next: 7141 Since: 03-23-04 From: Texas Since last post: 150 days Last activity: 150 days |
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| Gnostic Jesus is cooler then Christian Jesus anyday (even though they're the same). "Jesus said"Whoever finds self is worth more then the world." - The Gospel of Thomas Saying 110 Jesus said 'Where there are three deities, they are divine. When there are two or one, I am present." - The Gospel of Thomas Saying 30 And there's more. Basically one time he said something that if you don't hate your relatives, then you're not worthy of him or something to that lines. But then again, these documents might not be real, but they at least show a more humanistic side of Jesus. And the OT is outdated...and many people quote from Leviticus, even though the common people aren't under that law. And getting drunk is a sin, but that's why Jesus died on the cross, so you can be forgiven. To quote another Gnostic passage, "Thus all of creation has been blinded so that none might know the God that is over them all. Because of the bondage of forgetfulness, their sins have een hidden. They have been bound with dimensions, times and seasons, and Fate is lord of all." - The Secret Book of John 15:9-10 |
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Super Sion You BlockHead! Level: 70 Posts: 763/2472 EXP: 3002513 For next: 13298 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yo Mommas House Since last post: 29 min. Last activity: 5 min. |
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| I didnt know that there were so many Blashemer on this board. People shouldnt praise anothe rgod because there is only one. |
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DahrkDaiz Red Super Koopa  Acmlm's Mosts 2005 Best ROM Hacker Level: 45  Posts: 176/885 EXP: 643520 For next: 16644 Since: 03-15-04 From: K-Town Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| I haven't read this essay, but I'll just say this: it seems he uses a lot of Old Testament quotes from the Bible, but we must keep in mind that the Bible was written by humans, NOT God. It's supposedly the word of God, but Qaran(sp) is supposed to be partially the word of God too, so who can you believe? There's extremist in every area of religion and this guy is probably an extreme aethiest (I know quite a few aethiest that are quite timid and tolerable of other relgions). Of course hardly any religiou makes sense, nor does it intend to, that's part of the idea of faith, it's irrational, no doubt about that. | |||
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Vystrix Nexoth Level: 30 Posts: 171/348 EXP: 158678 For next: 7191 Since: 03-15-04 From: somewhere between anima and animus Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by Sion wrong. there are numerous gods, too many to count. the fact that people believe in different gods is proof that there are other gods. whether you choose to believe in any of them is up to you. you've chosen to believe in the christian god, to the exclusion of every other god out there. atheists simply believe in one fewer god than you do. (edited by Vystrix Nexoth on 06-07-04 10:01 PM) (edited by Vystrix Nexoth on 06-07-04 10:05 PM) |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 727/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Vystrix NexothOriginally posted by Sion Please note: Almost all modern religions are monotheistic. Perhaps that says something... |
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Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 92/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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| First of all, I'm an Arian. Little background info on that. Arianism was a branch of chirstianity. In the Arian belief, Jesus is the son of god, a creature created under god but is not god. That belief caused the Catholics (Believe it was them) to burn all the Arian churches, and kill anyone who wouldn't convert to the "right" teachings of chirst. So since the religion was wiped out in the 8th century AD. I grew up as a Christian, went to church, and read the King James Verison of the bible more than once. However, i never believed that Jesus and God was on in the same. Which is why i refer to myself as a Arian rather than a chirstian. And most importantly, i'm not religious. He does give alot examples where the god protraied in the old testiment comdemns horrible deeds on to the human race, but its hard to take anything the guy says remotely serious. He pokes fun at some parts, and tries to be funny. Also, alot of the parts he mentioned, he failed to mention the other parts that go along with it. I'm not fond of the old testiment, i see alot of it as hateful and unnessicary, but i adore the new testiment. I base alot of my chirstian faith on what is in the New Testiment and the vast majority of chirstians i know, do as well, and i find it funny that the author couldn't find many verses in the New Testiment to bash. Meh. |
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Super Sion You BlockHead! Level: 70 Posts: 774/2472 EXP: 3002513 For next: 13298 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yo Mommas House Since last post: 29 min. Last activity: 5 min. |
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| Well personally I believ in only one god so thats my support. I try to live a good life based on the pricinples of decency and thats what I believe "every" god asks of humans. |
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 280/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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| Whatever you believe, you should not tell other people what to believe in if they do not think the same way. There are thousands of religions and ideas about the afterlife out there. Just because people do not believe the same thing as you, doesn't mean you should label them as evil and call them blasphemers and tell them that they are wrong. There are reasons to believe in God and reasons not to believe in him. Either way, you are trusting the judgement of yourself and the judgement of other human beings. As for the Bible, it's been retranslated so many times, who knows what it originally said? Just be good people, for flip's sake. One of the main reasons I dislike religion in general (despite it's good intentions) is that the vast majority of major religions are very intolerant of other people and their beliefs. Many Christians for example would say that if you do not believe in God, you shall suffer eternal hellfire. Some go as far to say that if you do not even know about God, you shall suffer an eternity in hades. This is a Bad Thing. |
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SupaKat Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 23/36 EXP: 4974 For next: 1011 Since: 05-21-04 From: Ontario, Canada Since last post: 502 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by Dracoon Actually, being a Christian isn't just believing in Christ. It's also ..the best I can word it is, living a Christian life. (In other words, following Christ's words.) Fyxe, the Bible has been translated numerous times, and there are 'mistakes', but the only reason for this is when translating, a hebrew (I think that's what it's in. My mind is blank on that right now..) word could mean 3 different things in english. I think the most accurate one is the King James Version. As for Christians saying things like 'believe in God or you'll go to hell!', around my area, it's Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons who say things like that, I really dont know why they think it'll draw people into their church...it may be a bad thing, but it is the truth really. My church doesn't say that kind of thing to people  (pentecostal, a.k.a charismatic) |
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