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Are you for guns or against.
Woo guns, lets go shoot up the town!
 
47.4%, 18 votes
Boo guns, lets go hide in the corner.
 
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Posted on 05-25-04 07:23 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NightHawk
Originally posted by ChibiTaryn
I just think that in a lot of cases, having a gun for protection could be bloody dangerous. Let's face it, if I had a gun, and I heard a robber in my lounge room, by the time I actually GOT to the robber's location (with my gun) and then SAW the robber, I'd be FREAKING OUT. So I'd be a freaking out person with a gun. o.o That in itself makes the situation potentially volatile, and I'm sure not everybody has nerves of steel when they hear something sneaking about in their house....
If you can't handle a gun, don't have one. It's as simple as that. I'm not saying everyone should have a gun, I'm saying that honest, law-abiding citizens should have the right to own a gun.
Whether they choose to own one or not is up to them.




Well, I'd just like to point out how hard it'd be to only give honest, law-abiding citizens the right to own a gun. How you gonna be able to tell? Even with a background check, you still could have done very dishonest things in a work setting without breaking the law. Or you broke the law without getting caught. Would whoever distributes guns know? Probably not. Making this suggestion come true would be damned near impossible.

EDIT: btw, Fyxe is a guy, and Kwan wasn't trolling


(edited by Kefka on 05-25-04 10:25 AM)
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Posted on 05-25-04 07:28 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kefka
Or you broke the law without getting caught.


Ah... reminds me of the saying: the only sin in sinning is in being caught. o.o

But yeah, I know plenty of "law abiding" and "honest" people who I wouldn't trust with a weapon. Not because they've done anything illegal or dishonest either -- irresponsibility comes into the whole thing as well. But yeah, you can't test for stupidity.... as much as I wish you could....
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Posted on 05-25-04 07:43 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kefka
Well, I'd just like to point out how hard it'd be to only give honest, law-abiding citizens the right to own a gun. How you gonna be able to tell? Even with a background check, you still could have done very dishonest things in a work setting without breaking the law. Or you broke the law without getting caught. Would whoever distributes guns know? Probably not. Making this suggestion come true would be damned near impossible.
The problem is that you can't keep guns out of criminals hands no matter how much you want to. There are ALWAYS ways for criminals to get guns, even in the countries with the strictest gun laws.
Since we know that criminals can get guns if they want it enough, does it make much sense to restrict them to the people who, in general at least, obey the law?


EDIT: btw, Fyxe is a guy, and Kwan wasn't trolling

If Fyxe is a guy, why does (s)he have a pink name?

And what would you say Kwan was doing, because it definitely didn't look like he was participating seriously.


Anyway, my main point is not whether or not any given individual should own a gun or not... it's that guns aren't the problem. Guns are only a tool, and like most any tool, they can be very dangerous when not handled correctly.
Hell, I'm totally in favor of mandatory safety training before people can own a gun, I have no problems with that at all. I just don't see how it could possibly help the crime situation if criminals have access to guns and normal citizens don't.
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Posted on 05-25-04 09:41 PM Link | Quote
Excuse me - if you can't back up your points, or if you don't even know me, DON'T YOU EVER accuse me of anything. And I seriously suggest you go look up an internet dictionary for what the term 'trolling' means.
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Posted on 05-25-04 09:43 PM Link | Quote
Short and sweet, I'm for guns. I can't wait to get one

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Posted on 05-25-04 09:44 PM Link | Quote
You'll have more friends if ya have a gun. Makes your penis bigger, too.
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Posted on 05-25-04 11:55 PM Link | Quote
Dumbest thing said in this thread. If you were trying to make a point, which I doubt you were, I missed it.
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Posted on 05-26-04 04:22 AM Link | Quote
His point was that only boys who want to be macho and think with their cocks and have absolutely no brain wave would want a gun to seem cool and there's absolutely no other reason to own a gun ever.

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"If Fyxe is a guy, why does (s)he have a pink name?"
If you're a person, why do you have night hawk in your name?

I don't see how Kwan was trolling.
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Posted on 05-26-04 05:34 AM Link | Quote
Thank you, Yoshi Dude. ^-^ That was my point exactly. I know I made my point rather crudely and somewhat childishly, but I didn't particularly care. Sometimes it's the only language people understand. Although... Stasis didn't. But it probably wasn't aimed at him anyway, so.

Although I wasn't saying that was the only reason to have a gun. I accept that a few people would want them for target practice, and some other people might seriously want them for defense.

It's just really sad to see people say 'guns are soooo cool, I can't wait to have a gun!!'.

Jesus, I got that out of my system years and years ago by playing Doom.

Nobody sees why Kwan was trolling... Cos he wasn't. He was actually making a point about statistics.
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Posted on 05-26-04 08:10 AM Link | Quote
I don't do it for machoism. I'm fascinated by the physics of the weapon, the fact that it travels faster than sound...It's astounding. Also, the stylization of some late 1800s and early 1900s weapons are beautiful. The ivory inlays range from basic incriptions of names, to actual replications of the friezes of Greek temples...I'd love to own that.

So perhaps if people would stop making generalizations...The thread wouldn't be so virulent.
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