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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 349/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Maybe Soldiers will think twice about taking photos of themselves abusing Iraqis. If I was that Woman in the US photos, or the men behind the faked UK photos, I'd be thinking bloody hard about how sorry I should be. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 603/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Maybe the Iraqis shouldn't have started rebelling. | |||
geeogree Bloober Level: 34  Posts: 53/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| [stares].... maybe people should stop killing/torturing/raping each other.... then maybe all this revenge/retalliation shit would go away... I don't really understand what the guards were thinking when they did what they did.... it's shameful.... and now someone else is dead because of their actions.... I hope all of them see the video and listen to him scream so that they will never forget what happened |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 208/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| In all honesty man, they probably just used that as an excuse to kill the guy. I don't think that the photos that were released warrant cutting someone's head off. (Though as I said not negotiating with them might have done the job.) | |||
Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61  Posts: 162/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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even though im not american, I dared to see the video, so I hopped on kazaa and whaddya know, it was there, so I got it, I swear it was very very gruesome and disgusting, if I was the president, I would bomb all of iraq  problem solved lol, although im pretty sure it would cause more problems, some things just cant be solved...at first I thought they were gonna use an axe, but of course they had to do it the most painful way ever....and also, that guys family should sue the government..... |
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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56  Posts: 265/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Kiwibonga It's not the US. It's the fucking Bush administration. Mostly Rumsfeld, the ass hair on the shit-encrusted sphincter of humanity known as neoconservatism. Get them out of there. Now. We're supposed to be above fucking torture. And when OTHER TERRORISTS condemn your actions as against your own religion... you've got fucking problems. |
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Kwan Doesn't have a valid sized userpic. ||bass will be pissed :(((((((( Level: 50  Posts: 408/1137 EXP: 937111 For next: 10206 Since: 03-15-04 From: Durkadurkastan! Since last post: 22 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| I didn't think it would be that bad, seeing as I've looked at gruesome photos before. In fact, the video was quite poor quality it wasn't too gruesome, but replaying it in your mind makes it more graphic. Those men who carried it out must be highly fucked up in the head to do something like that to another human being. I got the video from ogrish.com. That site is not for those with weak stomachs. |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67 Posts: 212/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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Originally posted by Kwan I'll say. I certainly got a taste of old world barbarism when I watched it. It's a sad and pathetic thing to watch someone die like that. I haven't felt both so angry and so sad since the 9/11 attacks. |
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kiwibonga Double metal axe Level: 27  Posts: 107/266 EXP: 106040 For next: 10119 Since: 03-15-04 From: Montreal, QC, Canada Since last post: 126 days Last activity: 3 days |
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Originally posted by drjayphdOriginally posted by Kiwibonga Yes, yes, I mean the US government, led by the Bush administration. All I'm seeing is that everyone hates iraq now, because they value the life of an american more than the life of an Iraqi. When Iraqis die, it's because there just can't be a war without civilian casualties, when Americans die, it's a fucking national tragedy. |
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 1017/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Well, there's a little difference between airing the deliberate (and gruesome, for you TV/internet viewers) killing of an innocent man, live on TV, and the accidental killing of an innocent man in a bombing. Especially when his own fucking people set off the car bomb that killed him. I don't justify the deliberate torture or killing of innocents, ever. No matter whose side, ours or theirs. It's fucking ridiculous. |
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Felix Nipper Plant Level: 33 Posts: 254/422 EXP: 208347 For next: 20832 Since: 04-03-04 From: Canada Since last post: 224 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| I'd just like to add that if you haven't seen the video yet, I'd advise you not to bother looking. I did, and I wish I hadn't. | |||
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Roxwel Newcomer Level: 3  Posts: 1/3 EXP: 120 For next: 8 Since: 05-14-04 From: Somewhere on Earth Since last post: 537 days Last activity: 254 days |
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| Well, that's what the americans deserve for letting their own people stay there in Iraq. Besides, who the fuck asked the americans to invade Iraq???? They found no weapons, they stole the oil and now they are paying with their own lives. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 791/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Roxwel, I don't care if you think the war was justified or not, but no one deserves that kind of death just like no one deserves the humiliation that those Iraqi prisoners went through either. "if I was the president, I would bomb all of iraq problem solved lol" If you can explain to me why that would solve anything, then I'll give you a million dollars. |
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Roxwel Newcomer Level: 3 Posts: 2/3 EXP: 120 For next: 8 Since: 05-14-04 From: Somewhere on Earth Since last post: 537 days Last activity: 254 days |
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| "no one deserves that kind of death just like no one deserves the humiliation that those Iraqi prisoners went through either" That sounds nice and everything, I used to say that stuff but then I opened my eyes and realize that kind of world will never exist. This world will never see a thing like that, where no one gets hurt or killed. |
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Toxic in a sublime state of mind Level: 75  Posts: 1166/2857 EXP: 3732709 For next: 94195 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| What's your point.... "Roxwel, I don't care if you think the war was justified or not, but no one deserves that kind of death just like no one deserves the humiliation that those Iraqi prisoners went through either." No one deserves it, is what he said. He didn't say anything about a utopia. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1681/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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No one deserves to be tortured. None.  And yes I saw it BTW, no I didn't download it. I had computer class today and my classmates showed it. It wasn't as bad as I thought as I didn't get sick of it... but I do loathe violence. (real world one, not "videogame/movie" violence) But it made me angry that people can do thigns like this. And this wasn't so long time after the "torture" in that prison...  |
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Roxwel Newcomer Level: 3 Posts: 3/3 EXP: 120 For next: 8 Since: 05-14-04 From: Somewhere on Earth Since last post: 537 days Last activity: 254 days |
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| Damn it, it's a life default thing: someone will always die, no matter what. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 795/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Roxwel Granted, but HOW they die is another story. In war, you have to remember that your enemy is another human being and not some savage. On one side, you could be fighting for the greatest cause and on the other side...the same thing. That's why war is pretty stupid. In this world, who's to say who's right or wrong? |
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Waddler-D Deddorokku Level: 33  Posts: 80/442 EXP: 227132 For next: 2047 Since: 03-15-04 From: Orange Ocean, Popstar Since last post: 168 days Last activity: 123 days |
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Originally posted by Roxwel Ok, while I respect that there are SOME people out there defending the murder. Though, I highly doubt the way Nick Berg was a very good one. I would LOVE to see you be put in his shoes and say the same thing, because you'll be an innocent person dying a more than cruel death. While it's understandable to see that they were pissed off about the Americans abusing prisoners, as we all are about it. I'm pretty sure it's not right to decapitate an innocent man. Also, are you saying that everybody that has died in Iraq, both Iraqi and coalition forces something to say this about? They are fighting for a cause apparently and if people only thought like this, things would be really dim... (Sorry about the blank post, I was going to say something but I was dull-witted at the time...) (edited by Waddler-D on 05-13-04 06:31 PM) (edited by Waddler-D on 05-13-04 06:35 PM) (edited by Waddler-D on 05-13-04 06:37 PM) |
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Kwan Doesn't have a valid sized userpic. ||bass will be pissed :(((((((( Level: 50 Posts: 414/1137 EXP: 937111 For next: 10206 Since: 03-15-04 From: Durkadurkastan! Since last post: 22 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by Roxwel They deserve getting an innocent man, who went to Iraq to HELP the Iraqi's die the most graphic and humiliating death? Good one. |
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