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Posted on 05-12-04 11:06 PM Link | Quote
I'm surprised that no one else has posted this.... but I found out last night that some US citizen was beheaded a few days ago.... and the video of it was released onto the internet....

now, it wasn't just a "clean" chop with an axe or sword or something....

they sawed it off with a knife or something.... really quite gruesome....

oh and what makes it worse is in the video... the man is screaming while it happens.... really really nasty

it was done in retaliation to the torturing of iraqi prisoners...

so, what do people think?
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Posted on 05-12-04 11:12 PM Link | Quote
Jas linked to the video in IRC.

That was wrong. They killed an innocent just to get revenge for what some emotionally-disturbed prison guards did to Iraqi soldiers. And they didn't even kill anyone. Hell, most of the US is outraged at what the guards did (Even me).

Get those radical assholes.
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Posted on 05-12-04 11:13 PM Link | Quote
As much as I hate what the guards did, what they did doesn't even compare to this.
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Posted on 05-12-04 11:19 PM Link | Quote
I knew that this would happen, I knew that the torture in the prisons would lead to "revange" somehow.

It's sick I know, but sometimes people are cruel...

BTW I always feel that torture is wrong, sure if somebody have done something they should suffer, but not in that cruel way.
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Posted on 05-12-04 11:26 PM Link | Quote
Hmm...i think that depends on WHAT they
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Posted on 05-12-04 11:32 PM Link | Quote
I think it's horrific that people are doing these sorts of things to eachother, but I certainly can't offer any course of action. I'd advise them to stop, in the name of putting a halt to the escalating violence, but those who would take part in something like this probably don't care about the cycle.

In my opinion, these folks are extremists at heart, who have wanted to do this to someone for a long time and just waited for anything that they might be able to use to justify it to themselves. It's like they don't even consider themselves to be as destructible as those that they hurt, or that they see themselves as always the invulnerable observers. Fact is that they could just as easily be put in the same situation, and they certainly aren't capable of removing that possibility. Before anyone could ever stop these things from happening, they'd have to stop provoking them to happen.

And I suppose there's always the possibility that it's just more propaganda; another elaborate hoax to raise anti-Iraqi sentiment and draw attention towards the war. Not saying that's true, but as far as I know it's just as possible.
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Posted on 05-12-04 11:39 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Millennium Neko
Hmm...i think that depends on WHAT they
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Posted on 05-12-04 11:41 PM Link | Quote
I had heard that an american was decapitated, but sawed off? That's just sick...

I also heard about the video, and someone I know saw it, saying that it made him sick...literally. No way I'll watch it...

I hope those bastards rot in hell for what they've done.
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Posted on 05-13-04 12:45 AM Link | Quote
I'm surprised that no one has said that this vindicates the torture yet.
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Posted on 05-13-04 01:07 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by hhallahh
I'm surprised that no one has said that this vindicates the torture yet.


Because it doesn't
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Posted on 05-13-04 01:12 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by hhallahh
I'm surprised that no one has said that this vindicates the torture yet.


I'm surprised too.

And I trust you don't think it does?
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I think it's absolutely disgusting. It produced a hate that I'm not familiar with, for those who did it.
The man had a family, a business, something to look forward too when he came back, and then these fucking animals cut his head off.

I'm not even going to watch the video, because I would probably do something rash.
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Posted on 05-13-04 01:39 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Toxic
I think it's absolutely disgusting. It produced a hate that I'm not familiar with, for those who did it.
The man had a family, a business, something to look forward too when he came back, and then these fucking animals cut his head off.

I'm not even going to watch the video, because I would probably do something rash.



That's probably the same way they felt too.
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Posted on 05-13-04 02:22 AM Link | Quote
This is war, kids. Of course it's harsh.

The US doesn't give a fuck about the Geneva convention, why should their enemies?
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Posted on 05-13-04 02:32 AM Link | Quote
yeah, I have to say.... the US had this coming....

it's unfortunate that some non-soldier had to have it happen to him.... but I doubt the Al Qaeda really cared as long as he was american....

and really.... 1 person.... vs. several hundred...

sure it's sick... but no better/worse than anything we've done to the Iraqi's....

unfortunately... the US is going to see this as another reason to go on a rampage in the Middle East
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Posted on 05-13-04 02:47 AM Link | Quote
I just think it's fucking sick that time and time again our [U.S.] administration likes to emphasize that "we will not negotiate with terrorists" or something along those lines. Al Qaeda had been demanding the release of some Iraqi prisoners in exchange for returning Mr. Berg. And now we get to see innocent heads being sawed off - great.

Edit: It should also be noted that the victim was Jewish. They wanted to hit two birds with one knife apparently.


(edited by MathOnNapkins on 05-12-04 06:30 PM)
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Posted on 05-13-04 02:54 AM Link | Quote
It's times like this I wish I lived on another planet. Perhaps Jupiter?

And not because of this one incident, it's all of them. Combined. Since the dawn of time. You just know that people are never going to learn and war will always be a part of our lives. It's not just sickening, it's tiring too.
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Posted on 05-13-04 03:13 AM Link | Quote
I clicked a link last night about it, unfortunately, it was a streaming video link...to the whole gruesome clip...

I had such trouble sleeping last night, and all day at work today, I was depressed.



This makes the first year I vote for a president, and I know not who I will pick. I DO know however, that our current warmonger must go.
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Posted on 05-13-04 05:45 AM Link | Quote
I just thought he was neatly decapitated. not fucking sawed off.

Sigh...and i was enjoying the peace too.

It is my opinion we gather up the troops who tortured the iraqui prisioners, gather them with the radical terroist factions throw them in a room, lock the door.

Bam. problem solved.

its no fucking excuse to go back to war on Iraq though.

Oh look, a radical group killed one of our people. LETS BOMB THEM ALL YEAH! VOTE FOR ME!

war is stupid and barbaric. sadly, without it, there can't be any peace.
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