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| Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Super Mario World hacking - Demo, or not to demo, that is currently my question. |
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Yeah, the title was lame. But do you think demos are a good idea, or a bad idea| Demos... Yes or no.... there is no in between. | Yes, demos are a very good idea. |
71.4%, 10 votes | No, demos are a bad idea. |
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KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86  Posts: 514/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| With so many hacks out now-a-days.... there havent been MANY completed ones. Only demos it seems. Everywhere you look around here, youll see a demo thread, or demo being released, but have any of these hacks ever been finished? Not really. Its gotten to the point where I feel there is a need for this poll, and what people think on the subject to clean up the "mess of demos," Im not saying that demos are a BAD thing. In fact, demos can be a great thing if your hack is simply spectacular. But demos are getting "old" now I feel.... and so now I ask people this. To demo, or not to demo, that is the question. (Ugh, that is so lame.  ) |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 247/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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| "But demos are getting "old" now I feel" Where did you get this idea from? Demos are always good, but don't go making 396 demos. Make just one, and after that, only screenshots.  |
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KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86 Posts: 516/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by knuckIts not that they are getting boring, they are just getting overused. Like you said, 396 demos are not good.  |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 72/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| agreed. however I will be releasing my Demo within the next month (MAY) So I would say DEMOS are the best and you should download them... | |||
Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 121/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Demos are good to guage the process of a hack, both for the hacker and the downloader. It's good to get opinions on the game in motion, rather than stationary screenshots. However, tons of demos for a single hack are not necessary. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 1176/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| The problem is not the demos; it is that there is a demo everytime someone adds one enemy to their game. I would like to be teased with a 1 world demo, and then you can release the rest when you're done. What's ridiculous is that people release 50 demos, so when the final version comes out, I've practically played the whole damned thing already. | |||
Golden Yoshi Pokey Level: 41  Posts: 55/693 EXP: 445575 For next: 34570 Since: 03-15-04 From: Edison, NJ Since last post: 17 hours Last activity: 8 hours |
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If someone is really going to set aside the time to make a full hack, and they feel confident that they will finish the whole thing, then demos aren't really necessary. However, a lot of people lose interest in their hacks and discontinue them, so if it weren't for the demos, there wouldn't be too much for these hackers to show. Ultimately, I feel that all these demos are not necessary, but I release them also because I am uncertain if I will finish my hack or not. If I had all the time in the world, I'd just whip through my hack and just release it when it's done, but unfortunately that's not the case. People have lives to, ya know. |
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Aioria Boss Bass  Yes I will!! ;D  Middle Ages Warrior Level: 58 Posts: 168/1567 EXP: 1516086 For next: 61460 Since: 03-15-04 From: near the pneumon ultramicroscop icsilicovolcanoconiosis land Since last post: 19 days Last activity: 19 days |
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I love demos, but i guess the author of a hack should release only 3 or 4 of them. I already released 2, and my hack is not 4 worlds complete yet  |
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ExKay Somebody set up us the bomb! Level: 50 Posts: 104/1114 EXP: 908268 For next: 39049 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hannover, Germany Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I agree with Aioria, that you can release a few demos and then only show screenshots of your hack. |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49  Posts: 239/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| It should depend on the hack. I like it the way FPI Productions did it with the demos from TSRP II. You can reuse old saves but not save states (of course, if anything more important got altered), you may play the world bit by bit, but it is also fun and better, since you can debug easier in a couple of demos than in one large full version. | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 620/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Golden Yoshi ... Oh, if only that were the case with all of us. I sadly have no life. |
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Squash Monster New Age Retro Hippie Togateiru Fohku Kohgeki!! GRUNGE no HAMSTER otona bite Peace love and turnpike! Level: 40 Posts: 81/677 EXP: 430507 For next: 10802 Since: 03-15-04 From: Maryland (of the Country Between Canada and Mexico) Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I like demos, but I don't like being bombarded with them. More than that, I don't like that people release whatever they've got so far for a demo. I'd prefer to see a demo with less than what has been done so far, and preferably not all from one area. For example, I could release a one world demo when halfway done with my hack, using two levels or so from each world I've done. I see three advantages to this type of system: 1 - Players won't recognize as many levels when playing the full hack. 2 - Players won't have to play through the same world again in the full hack. 3 - The demo is timed better in the production of the hack. The one world demos we see so often are far from when a full hack will be released. |
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orynider Red Paratroopa Level: 22  Posts: 67/162 EXP: 50286 For next: 8064 Since: 03-17-04 Since last post: 57 days Last activity: 27 days |
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| I agree with Squash Monster that the one world demos we see so often are far from when a full hack will be released. I have enough new levels to make an full hack but I work on OW, graphics, on custom blocks and music. |
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53  Posts: 154/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I have considered making a "tech demo," showing off a few of the best levels and special effects so far, compressed into one small world. The main problem I have with this is the potential for theft of as-yet-unused graphics and ASM hacks...the demo ROM would have a ton of this stuff, since there's no way I can go through and weed it all out (there's simply too much in there). I can lock it, of course, but that does nothing to protect the ASM hacks, and the art could still be Lunar Decompressed...  Or am I just too paranoid? (edited by BMF54123 on 05-04-04 02:14 AM) |
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Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 124/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| If someone knows how to actually USE the ASM hacks you've implemented, I don't know if they would bother stealing them. And graphics are always a major concern, because there is no way to prevent someone from stealing them if they want to, but I haven't had a problem with that yet and I don't know if you would either. | |||
hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38  Posts: 194/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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Originally posted by BMF54123 YES YOU ARE. I would love to see this. 0_o; |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 262/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by BMF54123DON'T do it. The hack won't be fun annymore if you release a demo. >_ |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38 Posts: 196/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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Originally posted by knuckOriginally posted by BMF54123DON'T do it. The hack won't be fun annymore if you release a demo. Only if he puts everything he has planned into the hack.. But I guess on some level, that's a valid point. Yet on the other hand, it's been more than a year since his last demo, and lord knows how long it'll be until he's done. I don't think anyone will say, "gee, you spoiled this a year ago." |
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Golden Yoshi Pokey Level: 41 Posts: 60/693 EXP: 445575 For next: 34570 Since: 03-15-04 From: Edison, NJ Since last post: 17 hours Last activity: 8 hours |
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Originally posted by BMF54123 I actually think that would be a decent idea. The difference between you releasing this demo is that there are so many new things to see...so many things to show off. C'mon, you should really show off all your advancements, there's nothing wrong with being proud of your achievements. And you know I've been dying for about a year and a half to see some new stuff from you, literally . Just one, one measly demo before your final release, whenever that is, and then no more demos.Regarding theft: This is my word. If I ever try to steal anything from your hack, you have my permission to strangle me. |
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Smallhacker Green Birdo SMW Hacking Moderator Level: 68  Posts: 151/2273 EXP: 2647223 For next: 81577 Since: 03-15-04 From: Söderhamn, Sweden Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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BMF: I'd LOVE to see that, but don't! Otherwise, the full game won't be that fun...  |
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