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Mecha Mazgoth Goomba Level: 10  Posts: 4/27 EXP: 3295 For next: 1119 Since: 04-29-04 From: N Earth (don't ask) Since last post: 536 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| I'm not sure if it was talked about here allready, but anyhoo: People in society(some) think that violent video games make violent people. What is up with that? Some people use video games as a scapegoat to violence delt in society today. THAT.......is just wrong, in my opinion. Ex.: Colombine High Incedent(spelt wrong) was show, and what was the blame on? Doom. BS all the way. |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 304/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| "Doom teaches our children to be soldiers and killers!" Mmmhmm. I'd say an important part of using gun would be aiming a gun. Which Doom cannot do. Maybe this might've been plausible if Quake had've been out at the time, but it wasn't. So yes, complete BS. Then there is Grand Theft Auto. Massive public outcry in this country about GTA, and how kids are at risk. They conveniently left out the fact that it was illegal to buy GTA in this country without being over 18. Society will always blame what is new and different for everything that is wrong. It's called paranoia, and sometimes prejudice. They don't like what they can't understand. The truth is that if America doesn't want any more Columbine style shootings, they should JUST EMPLOY GUN CONTROL. (edited by Kasumi-Astra on 04-30-04 03:44 PM) |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1332/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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It's amazing that they still blame on Doom, and it's ten years old now. I guess it's becuse it's an classic.  Well, I started to play Doom as kid, did I get violent? Nope.  Heck I can't stand the idea of killing somebody.  But I wonder, I hadn't heard so many school shootings outside of US. Why does it happen so much there, but not here? (I blame on the fact that it is easier to get guns in US...) |
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Toxic in a sublime state of mind Level: 75  Posts: 961/2857 EXP: 3732709 For next: 94195 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| I cannot stand the people that try and connect these things. "Lets talk for 40 minutes on how you can bang a hooker, and then killer her and get your money back in GTA: 3. But, let's not say how kids under 18 shouldn't be playing this." That was on the CBS evening news. I just could not believe that. And I also love how they showed some guy beating the hell out of a granny for 5 minutes in the background. Most normal people don't do things like that....only people looking for a story. |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38  Posts: 162/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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| There's a pretty solid link between exposure to violent media and anti-social behavior... nigh undisputable, really. Of course, everyone says, "I played Doom, and I haven't killed anyone!" Um, okay. I've smoked a cigarette, and I don't have lung cancer. Doesn't mean there's no correlation. The real question is not whether there's a link, but... whether anyone should care. |
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Mecha Mazgoth Goomba Level: 10 Posts: 5/27 EXP: 3295 For next: 1119 Since: 04-29-04 From: N Earth (don't ask) Since last post: 536 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Yeah, I know. Plus, if they don't like violent games, then how about just banning all sports, movies, TV, etc. cause they all have to deal with violence in some form, no matter how it is shown. 2nd ex. Note: this is just a rumor that I heard at the time. That Sniper thing Near Washington DC. Silent Scope helped the sniper to train. Major BS with that, cause one can't fly a Concord jet by practicing with Microsoft Flight Simulator at home. Basicly thae same thing in that issue. [tangent/] What is up with your post background? It is weird.[/tangent] |
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Jill In love with a dream.. Level: 36  Posts: 149/528 EXP: 296548 For next: 11562 Since: 03-15-04 From: Teh Sweden Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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| Forbid weapons and get decreased number of murders. It's the way to go. Games are there to allow you to do the stuff you can't in real life and to have fun. | |||
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cpubasic13 17 years old now. Time to buy some M rated games by myself! Level: 54  Posts: 264/1346 EXP: 1206934 For next: 26936 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blame my parents, Eddy Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| I saw something on the news about this... actually, a bunch of stuff on this. They were first saying war games were very violent and too realistic. On another day, they said GTA is too violent. They said that GTA should be banned because of its violence. They are not even asking the people who play these video games how they fell when they are playing these games. They go to the "experts" who don't play video games at all. This is BS. | |||
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 1172/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| OMG LIEK MY CHIELD 8 MY KATT BEECOZ HEE LURNED 2 SQISH GOOMBAS IN MARIO! I SUE NINTENDO! Ok, but in all seriousness, games are violent and/or sexy because those two things sell... a LOT. And making money is what almost every industry is all about. And the ESRB rates games, telling people not to play certain games not suitable for them or whatnot. It is the retailer's fault for not like, carding kids who are 14 and wanted to play games rated M, not the game company's. Anyway, similarly (or not so similarly), the violence in those mature games are meant for people who can handle that kinda stuff, and um... how does using a controller teach you how to use a gun? Maybe, just MAYBE, if the person was demented, they could get away with saying that they were taught to be violent by a game, but um, games don't teach you how to use guns.  In short, the accusations people make about violent video games are, as previously mentioned, BULLSHIT! (edited by Kefka on 04-30-04 05:59 PM) |
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Drag Flurry  I don't post anymore! o_O Level: 26  Posts: 116/254 EXP: 98946 For next: 3329 Since: 03-15-04 From: Deogon Vally, Dragon Country Since last post: 316 days Last activity: 44 days |
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| Ok. See, people who are influenced by video games to be violent are either fucking retards or are on heavy amounts of drugs. I'm sick of how people blame video games for this shit. If a kid has retard problems and is affected by video games... why the hell do the parents keep buying these games??  The games have the ESRB rating on the front of the case, on the CD, in the book, in the advertizements, EVERYWHERE, so the parents should know what games the kid should be playing because chances are, the parents buy the games. It's not a question of a link with video games. It's an issue of ignorence, disregard, carelessness, and a heaping pile of BS.Thank you. |
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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56  Posts: 222/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Blame the media. No, really. It's all about ratings, so they'll go with what sells. And what sells? Not telling people to do their fucking jobs as parents. I saw a story here about how crime's down in one big city (okay, it's Hartford) except for license plate theft. They went on about the HORROR and INCONVENIENCE of filing a police report and waiting three days so you can get replacement plates for free. If you don't, you have to pay the OUTRAGEOUS and INHUMANE fee of $25. Their police department's making one-way bolts freely available to residents, though. What was the point of that story? They weren't telling you that you should file the report, they were wallowing in how PAINFUL and INCONVENIENT it is to go to the DMV and get plates. Are we really that lazy? Don't answer that, you know it's true. And if people aren't willing to go file reports when someone steals their plates, do you seriously think they're going to take the time and effort to raise their fucking kids right? I'm not talking about keeping the games away from them, either. I mean let them get it, but only when they're responsible enough to play them. And for fuck's sake, STOP FINDING SCAPEGOATS. There IS no one factor that causes violence, and it is a complicated issue. But you're not even close to potentially, possibly, very well plausibly having a chance of maybe thinking about wishing that you could dream of finding something remotely related to a factor by looking at the existence of violent games. |
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Setzer Popo Level: 36  Posts: 41/532 EXP: 290182 For next: 17928 Since: 04-22-04 From: Not Florida. because I'm going to sink it. Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 48 min. |
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| Well, video games do cause violence, ever since I played super mario brothers, i've wanted to jump on mushrooms and kill the damn things. Damn mushrooms. Not to mention bubble bobble! jeeze, I could trap my foe's in bubbles all day long and pop their asses. We need to ban violent video games in eurasia! | |||
Jarukoth  IRRATIONAL EXUBERENCE!!1! Level: 79  Posts: 837/3194 EXP: 4402011 For next: 177456 Since: 03-17-04 From: New Jersey, U.S.A. Shoes: Yes. Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Interesting note: Ever notice they only point out popular games like Doom and GTA, and not B level games like Manhunt which are WAY worse? Interesting... | |||
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Stasis Level: 13 Posts: 23/51 EXP: 8901 For next: 1366 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 486 days Last activity: 206 days |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-AstraThey have, violating the second amendment all the way. And it didn't work. Unless you mean banning guns outright, in which case people would just get stabbed, beat, or run over instead. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 1177/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by StasisOriginally posted by Kasumi-AstraThey have, violating the second amendment all the way. Well, there are more deaths per capita in America than anywhere else, believe it or not. Now... why is that? Why can't we be like Canada, who's near the bottom in that list? They are our neighbors, and surely they get some offshoots of all our hussle and bussle, so what is it that makes them so different? This is what I wonder now and then. |
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Yoshi Dude XKEEPER STOLE MY CAR KEYS Level: 79  Posts: 308/3271 EXP: 4572680 For next: 6787 Since: 03-15-04 From: give me a number folks. Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| A level headed person who plays resident evil or something is not going to go out and shoot people. I am against gun control. "telling people to do their fucking jobs as parents." is the best solution. |
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Clockworkz Birdo  "Hoargh! Take your shoes off!" Level: 64  Posts: 764/2002 EXP: 2188320 For next: 25777 Since: 03-15-04 From: Undisclosed Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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| If were gonna be banning anything, ban the bullets! Bullet control would be more efficient: $5000 for a bullet! Make people think twice before shootin' someone won't it? Anyway, I wanna kill people, and I do play violent games, but I know better than to take a TEC-9 to school and cap the local bully. | |||
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 1198/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I wrote my final paper in college on such a topic.  Let me see if I can get a little bit of it for you...Although there is no doubt that less-publicized incidents have occurred in society, psychologists started to find more concrete links between video games and violent tendencies in teenagers after the Columbine shootings in 1997. A large number of studies were performed which suggested that perhaps video game violence does have an effect on this new generation. The United States government |
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Teddylot It was a dark and stormy night ... Level: 44 Posts: 146/851 EXP: 606742 For next: 4543 Since: 03-15-04 From: Not today. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 8 hours |
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| *cracks knuckles* Okay, time to play Devil's Advocate. "In Paducah, Ky., a 14-year-old boy brought a .22 caliber pistol to school. He fired eight shots killing eight people." Okies, this is just a small section from an article I'm reading. But anyway, according to the article, the boy was a die-hard, video game jockey and his parents had converted a two-car garage into a playroom with VCRs and video games. That was what officers related the killings to. Now, this can seriously be debated, and I know most of you would say "Boy, that kid's a retard. I would never do anything like that." Well, good for you. But really, this isn't really what I'm trying to point out, so let's skip this. Anyway, the article also showed that video games do improve your skills with a gun. In fact, a lieutenant colonel interviewed for the article stated that he used video games to make soldiers ready for the battlefield. It not only puts them behind the eyes of the shooter, but makes them much better killers. Also, in the article, it said that the boy shot 8 people in 8 shots, while the average law enforcement officer hits less than one bullet in five in real-world engagement. As well, the boy had FIVE head-shots. That's amazingly good. But the main reason for me posting this is not the link between video games and shooting or that video games teach "our children to be soldiers and killers," but more that the video games desensitize people from the reality of death. Of course, video games aren't the only culprits, but are a great cause in it, since people are "in the action of killing." My proof: Kids today. Most of the people I associate with usually laugh at some of the car bombings and accidents on the news and the road. Also, when news is brought that 'two people died in Iraq today' or something, they just blow it off like it's no big deal. "Dude, it's only two guys, so what?" It's just that we get so used to violence that we begin to not care for it. This could explain why some kids would bring guns to school and "shoot 'em up" because death and violence no longer affect them, and just might be a game, in their minds. ((  One of my first times debating, so uh, I hope this is good enough.)) |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 1200/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Teddylot: I think that would depend on the game. The studies I looked at when researching that assignment showed no conclusive evidence of video games improving gun skills. Simulators, sure - but not video games. And like I said, Doom only let you aim from side to side.  Unreal Tournament wasn't around then to practice head shots. |
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