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Posted on 04-17-04 07:30 AM Link | Quote
Of cource americans arn't dumb... look at their grading system
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Posted on 04-17-04 07:36 AM Link | Quote

I like Australias grading system. It may be a bit more complicated than the American one but its still good.

Being in a differn't part of Australia to Rin we start highschool in year 7. Primary School (Grade 1-6) High School (7-12). It really depends on what part of Australia your in. I know that a highschool in South Australia goes from years 7 to 13.

Like Tinzeee i get 6 classes a day. They go for 48 minits. This really depends on the school your at. I have a friend that lives about 2 hours drive away from me and her school has 7 periods a day.
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Posted on 04-17-04 08:07 AM Link | Quote
Geez, Tom... since when do schools have lunch followed by recess?

Here's how it went for me...

Elementary: 3 periods, lunch, 3 periods. Monday to Friday cycle.
High School: In Grades 7-8 it was 3 periods, lunch, 3 periods. After that it was 4 periods, lunch, 2 periods. 7-day cycle.
CEGEP/College: When I finished it I was taking 6-7 classes a semester. At least one class a day, and one day I had 4 in a 6-hour block. Never again.

As well, in High School classes were set. We had two classes we could pick (out of Chemistry, Physics, Art, Drama and maybe another one) and everything else was set in stone from Day 1.
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Posted on 04-17-04 08:40 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by (No) Vacancy!
It's been about 8 years since I've been in a public school so I must ask, "What is it that American public schools teach?" From what I've seen on this board, the high school curriculum appears to consist of:

1) Engrish/Lamer speak
2) Historical Innacuracies
3) Computer Illiteracy
4) Lunch
5) Study(ing how to be a dipshit/moron)
6) Mathematical Approximations
7) Social Ineptitude
8) Art/Music (but no speech)

Of course, the Grade Schools teach:
1) Misreading
2) Misspelling
3) Recess
4) Unamerican History
5) Lunch
6) Recess
7) "KOMPUTIR TYPING LOLOL"
8) Uncreative Art/Tonedeaf Music

Seriously, what do you learn in high school these days? What does your daily schedule consist of, and what is considered a "Passing" grade? (30%?) (Not to mention that I had real classes and never a "Study" period, which is like an indoor recess).

The average intelligence from users here is mind-numbingly low. Even if "only" 25% (a low estimate) act stupid, their stupidity brings this board down into the depths of hell. Do people here act stupid deliberatly? Does their stupidity make them not know when to quit?

Please, renew my faith in the school system, or something! Show me that you're NOT all morons! I know there are MANY intelligent users here, but MANY MORE left because of the amounts of stupidity, uncreativeness, and utter spam shown on this board.


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Posted on 04-17-04 08:58 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MEL4MOD
Conformity. That's what public schools teach. End of discussion.
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Posted on 04-17-04 09:30 AM Link | Quote
Hmmm well... My schedule is...



1st period- U.S History

2nd period- 2D Art

3rd period- Biology

4th period- American Literature

5th period- Spanish 2

6th period- Geometry


I go to a public school... I learn a lot of shit....
I'm getting like a 3.0 or a bit higher... Yeah.. Science and English are holding me down... *Growls* I hate those classes...

So.... I hope I don't come off stupid to anyone here.... Because I know I'm not..
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Posted on 04-17-04 09:36 AM Link | Quote
The subjects i have are listed:

- drama
- information and technology
- business services/studies
- english standard
- music
- religion ( since i go to a catholic school )
and we also get study periods in australia, or like americas call them, study hall
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Okay, here's some of my schedules, and my comments:
k-6 (Elementary school)
Core subjectsAll are taught by one teacher.
ArtWe did painting, gluing, and stuff with paper.
PE (FUCK)Fuck PE class. I hated it since day 1. First off, I don't want to be an athelete when I grow up, yet that's how things are taught. Second, it doesn't matter if I'm falling down, vomiting, breathing extremely hard, the teacher doesn't CARE and makes you keep doing whatever it is, even though you physically can't. Don't get me started with FLE either.
Computer LabDid shit on Apple IIc computers, basic keyboarding, games, stuff like that. Instead of playing games, I fooled around in BASIC. This was my favorite of the rotation days.
Science LabEhh... this class was ok. Not my favorite, but not bad. At least we didn't do paperwork all the time, but the teacher was scary with his loud yelling voice. I was always scared to death whenever someone was deliberately fucking around, because I don't like being yelled at, ESPECIALLY if I wasn't the one fucking around.
RecessThis is what I miss most of all. A full 30 minutes of outside playtime. Swing sets, monkey bars, playing with your friends who aren't in your class, playing with your friends who are in your class, playing 'vollyball' with a kickball over the monkeybars, but I usually was found on the swing set. I'm too big for swings now. Why don't they make swings for 6 foot tall people?
LunchSo much shit happens here, I'm not going to discuss it.
GT Resource CenterYou have to be recommended and take an IQ test to get into this. I got in, and it was the most fun I ever had at school. All day, we did cool stuff. We made kites one day, we used flight simulators, we built a city, we played sim city 2000, thinking things 2, stuff like that. No assholes EVER got into the GT thing, HA! I miss this too.
7-8 (Middle school)
NoteIt should've been 7-9, but we got messed around with because they decided to move 6th over to middle school, and 9th to high school. Thank GOD I only had 2 years here. This school FUCKING SUCKED. Where the HELL do some of these idiots come from, and why the HELL do they end up here?
Social Studies / CivicsI'll be straight up honest here. I don't give a damn shit about government. At ALL. I never have, and I don't now. Government is fucked up. They hide stuff from us, and when they fuck up, they try to cover it, and what do they do to the people who don't believe? ...but I digress from the topic.
MathI failed a year of math, so I had to take Math 8 in 8th grade. Big deal. I got all As in Math 8, and Algebra 1.
ScienceUmm... Well, I did dissect a frog. Found a bug in its stomach. My 8th grade science teacher was CRAZY, which at least made her class a LOT less boring.
EnglishReading, speaking, verbs, words, what else?
PE (FUCK AGAIN)My grade level is pretty much jock-free, but you should've seen some of the kids (yes, I said kids) younger than us. I STILL hate PE. I hated FLE. I know more about my penis than I care about thanks to FLE. I don't care how to play basketball, I can't run worth shit (yet), can't hit a ball, don't CARE about the sports, and I'd rather not have a mob of angry 1337 after me every time I screw something up. GOD DAMN what a joke this class is.
LunchLoud obnoxiousness, cutting in line, 10 minutes to eat, I'm not going to discuss this.
9th grade (in high school)
Algebra IAs mentioned before, I got straight 100s accross my report card in this class. Easy class, really.
Earth ScienceWe learned about the earth. Ooh aah! Baka maka YATTA!! Also learned about topography, if that's the correct word/spelling/etc...
World History 1At least it's not government, so this class isn't so bad.
EnglishI had a cool teacher! Pretty nice. It was a strange class, but cool anyway. Englishy still.
Freshman SeminarRequired class for my grade level, but not for the freshmen this year. BIGGEST FUCKING WASTE OF TIME EVER. I could've been in Computer Science 1, but NO, I have to do THIS shit. We did nothing helpful in this class.
OrchestraFor the record, I've been taking orchestra since 5th grade. I hate how more people like the band more than orchestra.
Spanish 2I took Spanish 1 in 8th grade, so I got a head start to Spanish 2, which allows me this year (in 10th grade) to complete my foreign language requirement for my advance deploma a little early. By the way, in Spanish 1, I had a B average, Spanish 2, was B - C. Spanish 3 (10th grade) I have a C - D average, so I'm getting out after Spanish 3 before the grade gets any lower for Spanish 4.
PE (FUCKING FUCK FUCK)I STILL hate this class. Fucking joke. I'm serious. Who LIKES this class? It's full of fucktards and dumbshits. Holy crap, I've never seen so many wiggers at once!
LunchA little better, but still a lot of cutting. Occasionally, there would be a global "OHHHHHHHHHHHHH", which whenever one was started, NO ONE knew what everyone was "OHHHHHHH"ing about.
10th grade (this year. High school)
I'm not done with this grade just yet, so I can't put any details here yet


There. Make what sense out of that as you will.

Bigass post of mine too. This is my biggest post on this board.
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Posted on 04-17-04 10:17 AM Link | Quote

Lets think I have

Stupid PE
Advanced Maths
Advanced Science
And belive it or not Advanced English (i'm still unsure as to how i got in there)
Geography
Commerce
Electronics
Religion (stupid cathlic school)

Yer i think thats it
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Posted on 04-17-04 10:39 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Drag
PE (FUCKING FUCK FUCK)


My thoughts exactly.

Later on in high school here they introduced 'Fitness' that people could take in place of PE, which was more focused around exercise and the science of fitness, which I enjoyed far more - no goddamn sports, no superhuman teachers yelling at you because you can't windsprint for 20 minutes, just a small group of friendly people and the weight room. We also did a little bit of yoga and aerobics later on. Best of all, you could work at your own pace.


(edited by Utilityman on 04-17-04 01:40 AM)
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I hear that in america you have to do Jim ( like pe ) is it compolosry like here in australia, because we have to do pe till year 11 and 12 and we can drop it

I find no point or reason into doing pe
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Posted on 04-17-04 11:33 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Silvershield
Originally posted by MEL4MOD
Conformity. That's what public schools teach. End of discussion.
Wow, talk about a prime example of teen angst, and a wasted post to boot .

On another note, I'm a tortured soul that likes to continuously cut his wrists and is a vampire with a trenchcoat and black hair with purple highlights and pentagrams all over his backpack.

GOTH RULEZ ROFL!11111
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Originally posted by spncram
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Posted on 04-17-04 02:12 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by tinzeee
I hear that in america you have to do Jim ( like pe ) is it compolosry like here in australia, because we have to do pe till year 11 and 12 and we can drop it

I find no point or reason into doing pe


"Gym."

There's a certain amount of PE course credits you need over the four years of high school, in order to graduate. You can fulfill these credits in a variety of ways and I think they add up to either 2 or 3 years of PE type classes.
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High school classes I took...

(Only putting the ones I spent more than a month in, because otherwise it would be way to fucking long)

Freshman year:
Fall Trimester
- Drafting - 80 minutes. Pretty cool class. You drew plans for houses and shit. I sucked at it though and I don't know how I got a 61% (Think it was because the teacher was the teacher i had in preschool).
- Geometry 1 - 100 minutes. Easy. The teacher had the intelligence (sp?) of a retarded ape
- Transwriting - 80 minutes. Retard writing. Pretty much. I got about a 60% in all my writing and Literature classes (which is bad) so they put me in transwriting.
- Science - 80 minutes. Not sure what the science class was exactly
Winter Trimester
- Freshman Literature. Same as above really. just the people weren't as stupid
- Geometry 2. Same as above
- wightlifting
- Typing
Spring.
- world geography
- science
- Freshman Literature 2
- Health

In freshman year, I moved twice (got kicked out, got kicked out of where I went). I went to a school for about 3 weeks where i took shit like history, and drama but i moved back to my old school. not adding short term classes

Sophmore year
- Sophmore English 1
- Sophmore English 2
- Freshman literatrue 2
- Biogoly 1
- biology 2
- cooking
- Trig (Which turned in to advanage algerbra since they combined the courses)
- Adv. Alg. 2
- Health
- World history
- World History II
- Economics??? Really don't remember.

Ok. I only took cooking for about 7 weeks. Before that, I was in spanish but got kicked out. My stepmom kicked me out of the house so I was out of school that first term.

Only went to school a whooping 3 months junior year since I dropped out for most of it, and those months I was there I was coming to like once a week.

Senior year (Indepent Study student at an ALP). These are the classes I took so far.
- Sophmore English
- Us history III
- US history IV
- World History
- Ancient History
- PE
- PE
- American literature
- World Literature
- Intergraded math (since I failed alg1)
- Algebra II
- Geography

I think thats right.

I'm still trying to figure out how I could go from av algebra and trig to doing very simple algebra problems. I passed both AA and Trig classes with solid B's (85%).

Oh well.




Middle school was a joke. High school wasn't much better. They only teach the basics. Sometimes a teacher will go out a limb and try to teach something good but no. the students will go apeshit, refuse to do their homework and fail the test. Than we as the class have to spend another month relearning shit we learned many times before. In Algebra, we spent half the term on one chapter. It was pathetic.

History until senior year, was worse. The world war II chapters actually refered to the Allies and the Axis as "The good guys" and "those evil people" and apparently. Japan diddn't do nothing at all between the years 1941 and 1945. And they diddn't even exist as a country before 1941 (they never mentioned them in the wwi section or anything about them attacking china). The american civil war was crap in the history book. The world history book spent 5 chapters (yes, 5) over egypt. AND NOT ONCE DID THEY MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT EYGPT INTERACTING WITH ANOTHER CIVILIZATION!


I hate history books. So glad i never have to deal with them now (besides for US history, but the book is a good one though. It actually makes the US look like normal people other than super hero godlike country).
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My schooling has always gone with the A,B,C,D,E,F grading. I normally get A,B,C's. PE was the subjected i most hated, Art being my favorite. Year 11 and 12 is the best, as you get to pick your own subjects
Teachers seem to teach less and less.
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Here's my classes:

1 - Torture
2 - More Torture
3 - Whipping
4 - Chum (lunch)
5 - More torture
6, 7, 8 - Boredom
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Hmm..as of right now I have (Junior year in High School)

English 11
Algebra II
Health 11 1 semester
Computer Technology (that other semester)
U.S History
Chemistry AP (which sucks...damn class I'm failing and won't pass)
Spanish 3

I have to have 2 years of PE to graduate and I need one more semester that I need to take. It was okay. I kinda liked it..I hated our runs

All of my classes has always on a grading scale from A to F.

We have Fitness. Never took it. They had a rule where if everyone could run their mile under 10 minutes then they wouldn't have to run the mile for a month I think..not sure..so I said forget that. My best time was 9:59. That was my best year in running too. My time from when I got in High school went from 12:00 to 10 minutes and above. I would have gotten better but oh well .
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Originally posted by Apple
History until senior year, was worse. The world war II chapters actually refered to the Allies and the Axis as "The good guys" and "those evil people" and apparently. Japan diddn't do nothing at all between the years 1941 and 1945. And they diddn't even exist as a country before 1941 (they never mentioned them in the wwi section or anything about them attacking china).
I'm all for objectivity in school history texts, but naming the Allies as the "good guys" and the Axis as the "bad guys" really does not sound too far off from the truth. I don't care how much you (that's a general "you," not you personally, Apple) love Japan - a mass phenomenon that I still don't understand - but they did execute a dastardly sneak attack on American soil to draw us into the war. Likewise, even if you are German yourself, you must concede that German actions during the war epitomized evil. Perhaps the Allies weren't shining beacons of morality either, but they were more deserving of being called the "good guys" than their enemies. Once again, it's not right to use such titles in a history book, but you shouldn't sound as if you can't understand where the writer is coming from with it.

In regards to physical education, I've never had much of a problem with it. The jocks tend to come into their own in gym (as they really cannot shine in any other environment ), increasing their testosterone-fueled malignance, but I can deal with it. I never much enjoyed the periodic, compulsory mile run, but it wasn't terrible. Truly, I look forward to phys ed every day: volleyball, dodgeball, hockey, and the like are tons of fun.
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Originally posted by Silvershield
Originally posted by Apple
History until senior year, was worse. The world war II chapters actually refered to the Allies and the Axis as "The good guys" and "those evil people" and apparently. Japan diddn't do nothing at all between the years 1941 and 1945. And they diddn't even exist as a country before 1941 (they never mentioned them in the wwi section or anything about them attacking china).
I'm all for objectivity in school history texts, but naming the Allies as the "good guys" and the Axis as the "bad guys" really does not sound too far off from the truth. I don't care how much you (that's a general "you," not you personally, Apple) love Japan - a mass phenomenon that I still don't understand - but they did execute a dastardly sneak attack on American soil to draw us into the war. Likewise, even if you are German yourself, you must concede that German actions during the war epitomized evil. Perhaps the Allies weren't shining beacons of morality either, but they were more deserving of being called the "good guys" than their enemies. Once again, it's not right to use such titles in a history book, but you shouldn't sound as if you can't understand where the writer is coming from with it.


I'm not in to this japanese craze. I have a bit of german in me but that has nothing to do with anything. Its wrong for a history book to say one side is evil and the other is good. Espically if they don't even call them Allies or Axis at all through out the book.
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