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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 1022/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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The gas prices rise and rise, though I even have (no money for) a driver's licence I noticed that too. Is there marketing strategy from the OPEC countries or is there something real behind the fact, the oil will be depleted in a little than more than fitfy years (there are theories that this is wrong, I have no English source currently available ...) ? The gas prices were today for 1,32 Euros per liter when I got off the boss and saw the gas station, that is not that much different from US dollars. When I think back the prices were as half as much three years ago, at leasr in Germany [...] |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119 Posts: 7606/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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1.99 in St. Louis last week. This week? Cha-ching. By the by, 3.19 in Peoria. Diesel costs less. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 462/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Okay, I posted this in the Katrina thread, but it seems more to belong here: Check out: http://www.memphisgasprices.com/ Average Price USA: Today: 2.87 Yesterday: 2.60 One Week Ago: 2.58 One Month Ago: 2.27 One Year Ago: 1.89 Average Price Memphis: Today: 2.81 Yesterday: 2.66 One Week Ago: 2.55 One Month Ago: 2.16 One Year Ago: 1.76 (As of Aug. 31, 2005) Talk about parabolic. (edited by beneficii on 09-01-05 03:04 AM) |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 10253/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Gas increases didn't hit you today Milly? Overnight it went from... $1.14 to $1.34. I am SO glad I don't drive. |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 54/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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Yeah, this is a clear sign that ethanol (not just hydrogen, dammit) is now becoming a good idea. Renewable, blendable with gasoline (up to 85% alcohol, 15% gas with some cheap and quick modifications to your vehicle), and if things keep up, it'll be significantly cheaper than gas (if it already isn't) There's also tax relief here and there on ethanol blends, so it probably already is cheaper for companies to use ethanol blends, even e10 (10% alcohol, all cars can safely handle this blend, provides an octane boost, too ) blend. (some actually do already). Of course, as with anything there's ups and downs to this, I see it as having a lot of potential as an at least temporary aid myself. http://www.ethanol.org/ is a good place to learn a little about it (a bit biased towards itself, but meh, it's their right to do so). http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/04/28_steilm_e86sales/ ... $1.54 a gallon... man (this was back in april, but still!) |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 1023/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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There are "rape oil" stations scattered, very rare here in some parts of Germany - but this might be an alternative. The downside is ... your car will smell like chippy (edited by Surlent on 09-01-05 04:58 AM) |
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Cruel Justice XD Level: 55 Posts: 1181/1384 EXP: 1253266 For next: 60923 Since: 03-20-04 From: Darkwoods Penetentiary Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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Yesterday morning it costed $2.64 for a gallon of regular, then when I go back to the same gas station around 6:30 pm, regular costed $2.79!!! Who knows what tomorrow will bring!? | |||
Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82 Posts: 3116/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I DON'T drive one of those gas guzzling monster trucks, is the thing... I drive a friggin' Topaz. 23 miles to the gallon. Bit-Blade, that's actually already what it's like for me. I choose eat less. Ziff, I'm just saying that OPEC should be at least demonopolized if they're gonna increase production. They can seriously charge whatever the hell they want, no questions asked. Greed is eventually going to get the better of us, especially if it costs seventy cents to produce a barrel of oil and we're buying it for over four dollars. Zer0wned, what are these "cheap and quick" modifications, and how would one go about blending the ethanol and gasoline? It's not like you can just... I dunno, pour rum into your gas tank. EDIT: Interesting conversation over AIM: Rale9891 (9:11:24 AM): dear god, gas prices are around 3.10 a gallon now. And that's for us, in the cheapest part of the country Santo Vendetta (9:12:13 AM): yeah Rale9891 (9:12:14 AM): and yet for some reason I imagine the large oil company owners having like... water balloon and squirtgun fights with gasoline in the south Santo Vendetta (9:12:28 AM): uh, comrade? Santo Vendetta (9:12:39 AM): Lousiana has the only supertanker unloading port Rale9891 (9:12:50 AM): I know, it's a stereotype man Santo Vendetta (9:12:53 AM): and it has incurred the wrath of probably several angry gods Rale9891 (9:13:11 AM): maybe Katrina is a sign that we should switch to ethanol XD Santo Vendetta (9:13:33 AM): maybe katrina is a sign that we should give up and die Rale9891 (9:13:57 AM): well, can we wait about 70 years or so? I wanna live out my life first... Rale9891 (9:14:03 AM): but I'm not the only person who'd say that Rale9891 (9:14:09 AM): which is the problem. (edited by Guilty Grey X on 09-01-05 09:16 AM) |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 55/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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Alright, so I think it was only relatively "cheap and quick" from what I read, because having a look at this web page oriented towards this, it seems like nothing extreme, but still no easy task. Some cars are already made compatable though, so it's worth having a look at your owner's manual to see if you're already set. How to mod your vehicle, but a WARNING, this site is pretty red-necky and poorly formatted. But hey, they know cars, give em a break. Before I forget to mention, I've so far only managed to see modifications that involve a carbuerator, so it may or may not be an option for those with fuel injection. Another important fact is they're called "flexible fuel vehicles" for a reason, they don't have to use ethanol blends, they're just compatable, so if there're no ethanol blend stations around (which aren't much, there's less than 150 in the US), you can still use 100% gas. As for making your own alcohol, it is against US federal law (so for you canadians/swedes/other foreign, PARTY ON!). Although for fuel purposes you might be able to get around that. I know a good amount about distilling, and if you decide to look into how to do this, you should seriously consider yeast-based techniques, they make it so much easier and faster. And yeah, don't pour the rum in the tank O_o, it's not pure alcohol... (add cost inneffective to that.... $10-$20 a liter!?!?) But seriously, people should really learn more about alcohol as a fuel source, when I get out of boot camp in november (I'll have money and be 18 XD), I'm going to see about buying some shares in ethanol companies, there's already significant yearly growth from what I've been reading. If ethanol isn't the "future", it'll definitely be a temporary relief until gas becomes more readily available (shya, right) and/or hydrogen cells become the "thing" to do. EDITS: #1- Re-wording something to make more sense, #2- Forgot a space before the hyperlink >.< (edited by Zer0wned on 09-01-05 11:44 AM) (edited by Zer0wned on 09-01-05 11:47 AM) |
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LizardKing ..of The Carnival Creation Armet 87/94 Level: 38 Posts: 569/596 EXP: 355646 For next: 14801 Since: 03-15-04 From: Norway Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 13 hours |
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I do not drive, but I think the gas price here (Northern Norway) just went up to about 12.47 NOK/litre, which is 1.98 USD/litre, or 7,50 USD/gallon. I do *not* need a car! (I wouldn't afford one anyway, looking at all the other costs with having and getting one anyway.) | |||
Thayer Fuzz Ball Level: 38 Posts: 159/988 EXP: 349428 For next: 21019 Since: 06-28-05 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Gas prices here in northern Virginia were around $2.79 a gallon last time I saw a tank filled up, which was ... five days ago. God knows what it is now. | |||
HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 6775/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Surlent Do I even want to know what 'rape oil' is? |
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Jovis Octorok Level: 8 Posts: 12/34 EXP: 1587 For next: 600 Since: 08-30-05 From: North Country, New York Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 22 days |
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I live nearby Canada in a small country town in New York called Ogdensburg and gas went from $2.79 to $3.15 before the end of the night! I had planned to go out and fill the car up with gas after work but found out the prices had already shot up. I don't leave my home often save for work so gas really isn't an issue for me, but I wanted to go to the mall today The mall is a 40 minute drive from my home and it would cost about $20 just to drive to the mall and back just to have a little bit of fun on my day off. Not worth it Since I live in a tiny town there really are no other options to have fun, so I'm stranded at home Woe! I do wish to purchase a car that doesn't use so much fuel like the Europeans do, but I've always wanted to have my own truck to horde stuff around in Guess with the crushing reality of gas prices going up that it would be a waste to do so! |
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Thayer Fuzz Ball Level: 38 Posts: 161/988 EXP: 349428 For next: 21019 Since: 06-28-05 Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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I went out, and since the last time I was out five days ago, gas went up 20 cents... | |||
Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 10266/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I've noticed a few less cars around the area today... my guess is everyone's crossing their fingers and hoping the prices dip down soon. The problem is that every single station's at $1.34/L around here so you can't exactly go hunting for a bargain; independently owned stations charge even more. |
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Bella Ludwig Von Koopa You're Gonna Love Me Level: 76 Posts: 2094/2962 EXP: 3891483 For next: 114577 Since: 03-29-04 From: Groovy Way Since last post: 8 min. Last activity: 6 min. |
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Yeah, it's weird because as you go through the neighborhoods sometimes the gas goes up or down. Like in the poorer neighborhoods sometimes the gas stations charge more here in mine it's still expensive but I go to this station that's usually a little less than what other staions are charging..I dunno why though. Maybe they get enough business or something.. | |||
Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 11361/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Colleen Wtf? That´s not that expensive. It´s even higher in sweden. This is the time when you should go by bus. |
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Eponick Blue Octorok Level: 8 Posts: 4/37 EXP: 1760 For next: 427 Since: 09-02-05 From: Your closet Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Its up to $3 here and we are limited to 10 gallons per station/day. Also one of our 2 nearby stations had to close down. I guess its time I start walking |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 5249/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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It should've been time to walk last year, and the year before that...And the year before that. I'm laughing at all of my friends who can't handle walking 10 kilometres a day because they're so used to driving their lazy asses to and fro. I'm thinking of purchasing a nice winter moped for next year when I live off campus. |
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Acmlm Torosu heh Level: 51 Posts: 1169/1173 EXP: 981994 For next: 31944 Since: 03-15-04 From: Somewhere that isn't outside of Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by HyperHackerDivide by 1.15 (more like 1.18 even), not multiply Originally posted by ColleenIt became $1.34 here too, but I hadn't seen it yet, I go mostly from what I see in the news And just now, I heard it went up to $1.47/L in Montreal ($4.70/gallon US) ... apparently people around here are going all the way to Vermont (near the border) just for cheaper gas, it's like a 30% discount |
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