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Setzer

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Posted on 09-06-05 04:11 AM Link | Quote
Yoshi Dude, see my first post. I have a gut feeling the title will return. to make it's 5th edit now >.> but at least this one wasn't as degrading as the others were
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Posted on 09-06-05 04:20 AM Link | Quote
Someone changed it again
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Posted on 09-06-05 04:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Yoshi Dude
dude, thats like totally off the hook man
That's not the same thing at all. Kitten Yiffer admitted to the edit anyway.


The only difference between completely editing someone's post and making a post in their name is that the former requires they have an existing post. An edit is kind of like a post deletion + post in their name.

Yeah Kitten Yiffer admitted to it... TWO PAGES INTO THE THREAD. People that only skim the topics or only read the first few posts to get a jist of the thread will be under the impression Setz said it -- which he certainly did not.

So I fail to see how this is so different from posting under Setz' name.
Setzer

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Posted on 09-06-05 04:37 AM Link | Quote
Eh. Kitten Yiffer only admitted to changing it the last time, we can't be sure who changed it the other two or three or whatever times.
AP

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Posted on 09-06-05 05:36 AM Link | Quote
Well, blackhole did admit editing it the second time:
Originally posted by blackhole89
Edited the title to be more general again.
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Posted on 09-06-05 07:42 AM Link | Quote
Excellent, a big FUCK YOU style sticky will really attract new members. Two things contribute to the turning away of newbies; one is the rom hacking itself / command line programs that don't come with Windows GUIs, and the second is just general assery. There is a limit before newbie questions become begging and annoyances, but never should the rom hacker take the initiative and post a big xenophobic, short-sighted STAY THE FUCK OUT sign.
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Posted on 09-06-05 08:01 AM Link | Quote
ono! xZeaLitYx is right! Imagine what a tragic future the board will have if it no longer attracts hack requesting newbies!
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Posted on 09-06-05 08:51 AM Link | Quote
Something tells me the title wouldn't of been put in all caps and made so noticable if you guys didn't make a big fuss on yourself. Same reason most of you suck. because you're too busy bitching about stuff etc etc to do work.
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Posted on 09-06-05 09:47 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, I bitched rather than massively organize an entire new game in Chrono Trigger. And I wouldn't have gotten this far if Geiger, Chickenlump, etc. had berated my novice questions, rather than tolerate them. This kind of hateful attitude is what puts people off.
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Posted on 09-06-05 01:43 PM Link | Quote
Zeality, they were in now way targeting hackers like yourself. If you bothered to read threads besides the Temporal Flux one you'll see lots of people just begging for someone to fix their hack or help them with easy shit problems that could be solved by just tinkering around a few minutes or reading an FAQ / Readme. Research problems first, ask questions only when stumped, I say.
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Posted on 09-06-05 03:14 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by xZeaLitYx
Yeah, I bitched rather than massively organize an entire new game in Chrono Trigger. And I wouldn't have gotten this far if Geiger, Chickenlump, etc. had berated my novice questions, rather than tolerate them. This kind of hateful attitude is what puts people off.


Maybe if you kinda read this whole thread, you'd realise we're not telling people to stop asking for help, we're telling people to stop asking for us to do things for them. I'm all for helping someone. But fuck 'em if they want to be assholes and whine because I wont make their hack for them.

I bolded it because I was hoping you'd notice that. should I have put it in all caps too?
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Posted on 09-06-05 04:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Setzer

Maybe if you kinda read this whole thread


I think his point is more how it appears. I'm sure he knows what we all mean, but he's saying it looks bad. I actually kind of agree -- I'm still baffled as to why this got stickied.

xZeaLitYx seems to have the biggest objection with this thread... but ironically he was the first to reply with a "this thread rocks" pic. Go figure.
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Posted on 09-06-05 04:36 PM Link | Quote
It's possible to change an opinion about things.
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Posted on 09-07-05 01:10 AM Link | Quote
You know, blackhole89, IMO, this is really degenerative to the rom hacking society. I seriously don't like this thread title, especially since it has the F-word in it. This will simply drive away people who want to learn about rom hacking, and God knows what my parents will do if they catch a glimpse of this thread title. Someone PLEASE change it to something modest.
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Posted on 09-07-05 02:08 AM Link | Quote
I suggest we change the theme from profanity to... um...

What beats profanity again?

Oh yeah! VIOLENCE!

Say, like, "If You Make A Request Thread, We Will Kick Your Spleen Out Via Your Sternum."

Or something. < /sarcasm>
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Posted on 09-07-05 06:36 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by dark ludwig
Someone PLEASE change it to something modest.


GRAH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


#$!#$^@#$%@#$@#$@#$%

Read my other posts. I don't want to explain it again.
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Posted on 09-07-05 06:44 AM Link | Quote
I would make an insightful comment on this thread, but I fear I'll be sucked beyond the event horizon of idiocy.
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Posted on 09-07-05 07:08 AM Link | Quote
jease man, why do you have to have an attitude about people asking about request. They ask because they don't know where or they already search for it and they need help finding it. So don't overreact when people need help. I have recently seen this post a couple of times and I had to read what was going on this time. They did not say they needed everybody's help, but the people who want to help. So if you don't like it, back away then.
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Posted on 09-07-05 07:08 AM Link | Quote
Hmmm....Should this be unstickied and replaced by a better one?
Something like this, but I don't think it'll be used, though :
If you want to make a request:
1. Read the stickies, search the web, or search the threads with Google (words you want to find and "site:board.acmlm.org") first to check if what you want already exists.
2. It's recommended that you have a good posting record
3. You should do it politely and nicely (i.e., thank you, etc.)
4. You should not do it rudely
5. Make it as detailed as possible
6. Make yourself sound as not "noobish", annoying, or obnoxious as possible
7. It is recommended that you are at least an intermediate hacker (not newbie) to post a request.

It is not recommended to request with a thread, though. You should request via PMs, email, AIM, or any other way of contact, instead, unless it is a level or GFX competition (or anything similar).

Oh, and the title to not have profanity like this one. But if this would be used, I'm pretty sure some things would need to be added or edited, though.


(edited by AP on 09-06-05 10:11 PM)
Setzer

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Posted on 09-07-05 07:40 AM Link | Quote
AP, I love everything about that post. except the request via PMs, email, AIM part. Most new people comign in wouldn't know who to IM or whatever, and might IM a bad card like me, who'll say "bug off"

And for all the people, who're missing the point of this thread [Points seem to be missed a lot at this board]

we're not telling people to stop asking for help, we're telling people to stop asking for us to do things for them.

Does that make it any more clear?
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