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Old Zem Level: 27 Posts: 245/260 EXP: 102369 For next: 13790 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 213 days Last activity: 203 days |
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| Okay, fyxe, according to ImageReady, your delays are set at 0.06 and 0.08 seconds (0.06 for the mellow, and a mix of both for the geemer.. I haven't checked the others). Apparently, this DOES work in internet explorer, just not for the big sprites like Ridley, which I was trying it on. Very mysterious. Anyway, firefox displays them much slower. How sad. But that's okay. | |||
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 95/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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Originally posted by 404 Your computer or browser is rubbish, NOTHING works on whatever the hell you use. And enough with the freakin' arrogance. Did I say it was a CRIME? No, I said it was blasphemous, and it kinda damn well is. It's like a 'gamer' who's never touched a Zelda game or something. Honestly, you need to just shut the hell up sometimes, Xkeeper. Grow up and quit trying to piss me off with every other post. I thought you had got past that. Zem, yes, that's the timing I used. Man, if those sprites are slower on Firefox, I'd hate to see what they'd look like if I'd made the delays any shorter... And, big sprites do recognise a delay of .06. I suggest you maybe try it again, because I'm sure I've made some pretty large animations with a delay like that... |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1193/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Your always to quick with calling things rubbish Fyxe. Becuse the GIF animations dosen't work to well on his browser dosen't mean that it is rubbish, it could be something that your GIF animations aren't following the GIF standards right. (but XK, you could have said it in a nice way...  )I could say then that IE is rubbish becuse it don't support PNG transparency, and MNG, and how slow that browser loads page and how it is trying to create own standards instead of following them, and all the security holes... Yeah some of the GIF animations is slower in Firefox. Maybe it's how delay's work diffrent in Firefox.  Talking about MNG, I wonder when it will make a breakthrough. (edited by Kitten Yiffer on 04-21-04 09:28 AM) |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49  Posts: 221/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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It will take quite a while, when even PNG as an imo worthy successor of GIF will be standard; and it unites more advantages than GIF: Up to 16,7million colors, less space, a free compression algoryhthm (unlike GIF which owns CompuServe and charges license fees for every application which uses it), semi-transparency and even support of one alpha channel. STILL GIF is prior to PNG ... and since a MNG consists of a series of PNGs (a MNG made of GIFs is not true MNG at all |
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 96/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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| Kitten Yiffer, I have had a constant stream of Xkeeper saying 'I can't see your layout' or 'I can't see your custom title' or 'Geocities must be down again', or 'the animation doesn't work'. I've come to assume that whatever he uses is a bit on the crappy side. You can't blame me for that. I don't know why he even bothers telling me that it doesn't work anymore. What the hell is PNG transparency anyway? I've yet to see anything that uses it... Show me an example, or something. And I have no idea what MNG is. And my browser loads pages plenty fast. O.o'' |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1195/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| http://entropymine.com/jason/testbed/pngtrans/ This is an PNG transparency test, Firefox does this correct. Internet explorer not. And yeah, Internet explorer is fast. But Firefox is faster than IE especially when there is alot of pictures. Firefox cache system works alot better to. MNG is animated PNG. Edit: Stupid typo I made...  (edited by Kitten Yiffer on 04-21-04 02:09 PM) |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 222/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Fyxe, I have a sprite which was made and used by Phantom Abyll, what he used as an avatar in another forum (to give credit that this is _not_ my work or avatar I made): IE users will see a white background while Opera- and other browsers display the transparency correctly ...  And try to zoom that image in your GFX program ... you'll notice a neat experience when trying to see the blue sword light gradient in bigger pixel dimensions  |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 564/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Ahem: Use the force,...who? Seriously, that sword looks like a Laser Sword. Yeah, Firefox is displaying the transparency correctly...  That avatar looks really good. I |
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 97/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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| Personally, I'll skip on some PNG issues to have the ability to see .gif animations at a correct speed. At least, for the moment. I know how IE works and I've never had any major troubles with it... Changing browser seems just like a bit of hassle for very little gain, if any. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1196/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| But have you at least tried it? http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ Try it out at least, I was skeptical myself before I downloaded it. But I use it as main browser now and find IE clumsy now. The GIF animation slowdown are only noticeable with your GIF's Fyxe. Which program are you using? Microsoft GIF animation? Maybe I should post this on the Firefox forums. Edit: Now it seems, Only Microsoft GIF animator and IE plays it in that speed. But the in-built image preview XP haves show it in the same speed as Firefox.  (edited by Kitten Yiffer on 04-21-04 02:30 PM) |
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 98/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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| Don't blame my program, they look the same when I use my other .gif animator, and Zem just downloaded it and the delay is the same in ImageReady. Plus, Zem said that the other animated GIFs slow down using Firefox, it's not just mine. Blame Firefox, don't blame me. >.< EDIT: I just tried out Firefox. It seems the lower delays (6, maybe 8) come out slowly. I can't help that. If I made the delay any more, it would just be slower anyway. Might as well leave it as it is. By the way, I do not like Firefox. Maybe it's just my computer, but it is SLOW. Well, it's not THAT bad, but compared to my IE, it seems far slower at browsing. Feels all jerky. (edited by Fyxe on 04-21-04 03:27 PM) |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1197/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by Fyxe It does that on older computers. On one of my computers it takes time to load but it still faster (and it's an pentium 2). I hadn't tested it so much on low-perfomance systems. Firefox uses more memory than IE and that is maybe why it is slow for you. But on newer computers it is faster. Try it again when you get a newer computer. |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 225/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Kitten YifferOriginally posted by Fyxe IE has it roots deep in Windows; so all essential data already are loaded. So it's like the environment is loaded and Windows only needs to load the .exe and that's it. But any other browser apart from Internet Explorer has to load its data _in full_ into the system cache. So it's just normal that an alternate browser NEEDS more time to start up. Mozilla users have the option to load a part of their browser into the quick start when the system booted. So already is some of Mozilla's data in the system memory and the computer can load Mozilla faster. And now just think, IE is loaded nearly entirely, since it's a Windows application and rooted with the operating system. Easy. If Mozilla was tied in like this, it would load much faster than now; although it needs more RAM than IE; yes. |
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KP9000 Flurry Level: 27  Posts: 52/261 EXP: 102741 For next: 13418 Since: 03-18-04 From: Wherever you saw me last... Since last post: 22 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| My favorite custom rank would have to be the Fire Luigi one too... I like anything Mario or Luigi. I used the Mario gifs in my layout from TEK's rank set. |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 276/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| Gandalf The Grey: I guess it depends on what sort of hardware you're using. I tried Mozilla on a slower machine and IE was superior in every way. On my own machine, which runs Firefox it performs much, much better than IE. It may be a newer version of Mozilla, but I think if you have a good stable environment, IE's attatchment to Windows loses it's advantage and Mozilla becomes the better browser. |
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Old Zem Level: 27 Posts: 254/260 EXP: 102369 For next: 13790 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 213 days Last activity: 203 days |
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Originally posted by FyxeThis is probably explained with the image, but for the record: you know that GIFs are either fully transparent or fully opaque... PNG supports multiple levels of transparency, or an "alpha channel" if you will. It works in pretty much every browser other than IE. Very handy. |
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 99/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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| It does seem pretty fancy, but I don't see how I would actually put it to use personally, at the moment. Well, I'll wait until either I get a faster computer or IE starts supporting them, then I'll worry about all that... | |||
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1213/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by FyxeIt seems that the next version of IE will be in Longhorn (which will be finished in the next 1-2 years). I would be surprised if they released the next IE for Win98/me, Microsoft is supporting those OS less and less nowdays. And they have promised full PNG support since IE 4/5, hopefully they will add it in Longhorn... |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 230/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I know this is off topic, but Microsoft doesn't support Windows 98/ME anymore, as there will be no updates. The support for those two Windows versions was closed from December 2003 permanently. As for speed, I'm running my browser on my older machine, but I notice speed issues compared between Internet Explorer and Firefox. While Internet Explorer is loaded fast, it loses time when loading Acmlm's Board for example. One layout is not loaded properly (broken CSS file or layout for example), then the entire page hangs; except the header until the thread name it stays blank. The layout background scheme is visible only (in my case stars, since I'm using "Night"); Firefox only needs time if the cache is empty; this only happends if Firefox crashed (this happened only twice in more than one year since I'm using it), but on the other hand the posts load one after another and already display even the "incomplete" posts already (such as the BG image is not loaded yet etc.) while IE wants all posts to be displayed -> Firefox is way faster for me; the longer start-up time of Firefox (usually about 15-20 seconds when started the first time and no major programs are open at the same time) results in way shorter page loading times than the IE which only has the advantage to be up immediately after you clicked the icon in the Quick Launch bar .(edited by Gandalf The Grey on 04-22-04 05:07 PM) |
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 100/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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| What on Earth is 'Longhorn'? O.o'' 1-2 years? That's ages. Jeez. I know I'll probably be using XP by then, but still... Well, I'm not going to be spriting for awhile, at least not Super Metroid sprites... It takes up a surprising amount of time. I'd rather spend it doing other things, really... But, I'll leave you with a Reo and a Skree. |
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