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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 5064/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| It doesn't matter. He is a shitty politician. End of story. | |||
Dark Vampriel Lynel "Life is just a dream on the way to death." Level: 57  Posts: 1411/1658 EXP: 1400355 For next: 85573 Since: 08-29-04 From: Somewhere..... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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I haven't kept up with what he's been doing in California as Governor. So, umm, him trying for President isn't going to happen. If it somehow does then people need their heads examine.  |
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PeterGriffinTheMan Deddorokku Level: 29  Posts: 313/425 EXP: 137018 For next: 10867 Since: 03-02-05 Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Who said he was born in Austria, I just said if he wasn't born from another country, then he could run. End of story... | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 5068/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| His plan for the schools has failed. The infrastructure of the state is crumbling again. He has proven to be an embarassment and shouting out stupid slogans nearly everyday that are offensive to someone in a serious way. |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44  Posts: 654/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by PeterGriffinTheMan So you would point out what two others had already pointed out? How very spammy of you... alte Hexe (what the fuck is up with these stupid names!?): He also has a very big...errr...problem looming over his head. Although, IIRC, Clinton had a problem similar to this, and he didn't even get a slap on the wrist for it. So we'll see what happens. |
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Danielle Local Moderator  Level: 76  Posts: 1734/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Ziff is my hero. Too bad you're not American or I'd say Ziff for prez.  |
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Bella Ludwig Von Koopa You're Gonna Love Me Level: 76  Posts: 1742/2962 EXP: 3891483 For next: 114577 Since: 03-29-04 From: Groovy Way Since last post: 8 min. Last activity: 6 min. |
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| No thank you. Since he sucks at being governor, why not make him president? Nah..it's okay..he just became governor because he was an actor and what not. I really hope he doesn't become president..then I am for sure gone. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 5019/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Bella What is with this mentality anyway? You would seriously leave America just because of one man? |
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Bella Ludwig Von Koopa You're Gonna Love Me Level: 76 Posts: 1744/2962 EXP: 3891483 For next: 114577 Since: 03-29-04 From: Groovy Way Since last post: 8 min. Last activity: 6 min. |
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Eh, I'm just over-exaggerating it not seriously. I just really hope he wouldn't become president then something is wrong with these people  . I'm sure people have a better mind than that though after seeing what he's done with California. |
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Cornellius Buster Beetle Level: 33  Posts: 355/460 EXP: 224182 For next: 4997 Since: 06-04-04 From: Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 10 hours |
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Watch the new posters ! Right here ! Imagine Arnold going like this on a real debate. Arnold: .... errrr.... STFU ! (edited by Cornellius on 08-15-05 02:51 AM) |
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Danielle Local Moderator Level: 76 Posts: 1739/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Can you imagine a presidential debate with him... to think people making fun of Bush was bad. |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35  Posts: 405/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| There's two issues here. The first is whether it's right to exclude all overseas-born people from the highest office in the land. As someone intent on infiltrating and dominating America (shhh) I personally think it's pretty wrong. One of those outdated quirks in that Document you all rate so highly I suppose. It was probably originally designed to keep British subversion at bay. But he can always be Vice President can't he? God, wouldn't the hardline Republicans shit themselves over a McCain-Schwarzenegger ticket? ----- Second is the arguments over Arnie's record as governor. I'm sure he hasn't done much, but I also know that California's problems are extremely difficult to solve. The main problem is that it has a 8 billion dollar budget shortfall out of its 100 billion dollar budget. This is, basically, because in 2001 the stock market crashed and CA lost 11 billion dollars in capital gains and stock options revenue. The budget hole was really no-one's making except the markets... obviously it's not great to have your fiscal outcomes dependedent on the vagaries of the stock-market, but that's neither Schwarzenegger's nor Davis' fault. What's more, the shortfall is difficult to make up, because there's no political to introduce new taxation or raise existing ones (I understand there's some people who want property taxes to push up revenues.... but then there's the possible impending housing market fall so maybe that isn't a great idea either) and people don't want to lose their social services, Cali's excellent public tertiary system and Medi-Cal and so forth. If there's no political will to either raise revenues or sufficiently cut spending... then not much can be fixed, eh? ------- Finally, on Reagan. I'd heavily heavily dispute that he was a good president. I especially take umbrige at the REAGAN WON THE COLD WAR idea, the childish delusion that one man on the other side of the world had such godlike power that he brought down the Soviet system (as opposed to, say, Gorbachev's foreign policy shift that had its genesis in the Krushchev years, the efforts of Solidarnosc and similar groups, the untenably shabby state of the eastern bloc economies as compared to previous decades - especially relative to the west). But I would also argue that the key difference between Reagan and Schwarzenegger, two actor-come-politicians, is that Reagan never ran on his Hollywood persona. Sure, he drew on his celebrity and his skills as an actor, however slight... but he never ran AS Reagan the Actor in the same way that Arnie's political persona is inseparable from his Hollywood persona. HE IS ARNIE and there's no differentiating between politican and actor. Also, Arnie ain't senile. This brings me in a roundabout way to why Arnold Schwarzenegger should not try to run for president. As stated, the man trades on his celebrity and his larger than life persona - he accomplishes little but anyone in the same position would be just as hamstrung. He's the victory of image and style over substance. In some ways, he's the perfect Californian political phenomenon... in some insane way, it makes sense for the man to be Governor of California, a state obsessed with celebrity and infused with an air of unreality. But translate this into the larger, more vicious arena of federal politics, and he'd be lost and ridiculous. Sure, federal politics trades in style, image and unreality too... but it's a different, crueller variety. What's more, his moderate Californian brand of Republicanism does not, will not, play well in the middle or the bottom rigght-hand bit... and the federal Republican machine, the same one that managed to get Bush in ahead of McCain, will never accept a pro-abortion pro-stem-cell-research Republican-lite who believes in climate change to the extent of driving hybrid cars... and is married to a Kennedy. (edited by Arwon on 08-15-05 03:35 AM) (edited by Arwon on 08-15-05 03:36 AM) (edited by Arwon on 08-15-05 03:37 AM) (edited by Arwon on 08-15-05 03:41 AM) |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 5023/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Arwon No, he can't. In accordance with the 12th ammendment, if you're not eligible to run for President, then you're not eligible to run for Vice President either. EDIT: It's fun fact time! In case you were wondering, given a situation where Arnold becomes the Speaker of the House and both the President and the Vice President die (which is highly unlikely), then he would be passed over and it would go to the next in the chain which would be the President Pro-tem. So no loophole to be found here. (edited by Viceroy Legion on 08-15-05 03:50 AM) |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3807/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Daniellebut you could become a canadian citizen  but I guess it would be more of 'Ziff for PM' |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 5071/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I'm already Ziff for PM. Sure I don't send many of them, but I DO send them occasionally And ewwww...I'd rather be the GG, less work/more money. |
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Cornellius Buster Beetle Level: 33 Posts: 356/460 EXP: 224182 For next: 4997 Since: 06-04-04 From: Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 10 hours |
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Originally posted by alte Hexe Hahaha, ditto ! |
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firemaker Level: 26  Posts: 178/247 EXP: 94178 For next: 8097 Since: 03-23-04 From: UK berkshire Since last post: 17 days Last activity: 11 days |
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| well all i have to say about that is: cant happen : wont happen |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 11026/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Prier Oh, come on. If people thinks he´s done a terrible job in California they sure as hell won´t vote him for president. GOOD LUCK; AHNOLD!  ¬_¬ |
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ClockExplosion Red Goomba Level: 10  Posts: 43/46 EXP: 3573 For next: 841 Since: 06-24-05 From: Fort Worth, Tejas Since last post: 78 days Last activity: 60 days |
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| Pah. He's not going to make it. Although, if the Republican party is desperate enough... Just anything but Hilary Clinton. I'll drink to that. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3810/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by alte HexeWhat's the GG? I'm guessing it is Canada's head of state (not head of government...that's the PM)? Hmm...if Hilary and Rice were going against each other in 2008... |
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