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luigi_mario Micro-Goomba Level: 7 Posts: 16/16 EXP: 1113 For next: 335 Since: 01-03-05 Since last post: 98 days Last activity: 67 days |
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| Which files were updated from 1.A2 to 1.A3? | |||
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DarkSlaya POOOOOOOOOOOORN! Level: 88 Posts: 3890/4249 EXP: 6409254 For next: 241410 Since: 05-16-04 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Should say it Refer to the Xeo's post. (edited by Argos Bleak on 07-26-05 02:40 PM) |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81  Posts: 2753/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally sent by ||bass |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62  Posts: 1663/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| I didn't do a lot of the work on 1.A3, but I've been heavily involved with one of the main features on 1.A4. Work is about 60% done, and as much of my free time is going on it. ||Bass is right about 1.A4. 1.A4 has changed how the board puts together the HTML and CSS you see when you view it. Therefore, every single page that you can see through a web browser has changed in some way. At the moment I'm working hard to make it work with every viewable file in 1.A3. Then I'm going to be optimising it to make sure it's as useful as possible. We appreciate this makes it a nightmare to update your own boards, but when it's done it'll knock your socks off as far as Acmlm's Board is concerned. Wait and see  (edited by Kasumi-Astra on 07-27-05 02:44 PM) |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2776/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra So, if I were working on making an entirely new page for AB's, would it just be best to wait for 1.A4 to release? Since if I finished it up now, when 1.A4 comes out I'd then have to change it again? Yeah, I think I answered my own question there.  And trust me folks, 1.A4 wil be very good. (edited by Xeolord on 07-27-05 02:46 PM) (edited by Xeolord on 07-27-05 02:47 PM) (edited by Xeolord on 07-27-05 02:47 PM) |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1664/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| It's only five lines replacing one line. It changes which files are required by each viewable page. Not much for one page, but if you're planning on upgrading this new feature on 1.A3 manually, it'll take you an afternoon |
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Elric Chasupa  Currently Playing: You Like A Lute. Level: 40 Posts: 398/687 EXP: 440016 For next: 1293 Since: 03-15-04 From: Melniboné Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| And I suppose that those of us whom have yet to upgrade to the 1.Ax series are going to have to do a complete board wipe if we want to use v1.A4, aren't we? I may just end up sticking to v1.92 for good. I'm getting real tired of having to wipe & reinstall every damned time I wanna upgrade. Gawds this board's code is a freakin' MESS. |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2802/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by Elric  You can still keep the db intact, heck [remember possibly?] I converted from Acmlm+Erk 1.whatever and was able to switch to 1.A2 and kept all posts, threads, users, and everything. The only thing I lost was Private Messages, because 1.A2 came with the customizable options and so on. But if you're doing a lot of editing file wise, then yeah, I can see your point. (edited by Xeolord on 07-27-05 10:07 PM) |
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Elric Chasupa Currently Playing: You Like A Lute. Level: 40 Posts: 399/687 EXP: 440016 For next: 1293 Since: 03-15-04 From: Melniboné Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Considering I can't even get Weasel's ABNews poster to work with my board, I doubt I'll be able to convert the needed files to upgrade to v1.Ax. Here's an idea: Screw the 1.Ax crap and start work on v2.0. The ONLY things the 1.Ax series has brought that has been NEEDED is security stuff. So, unless a security issue needs to be addressed, screw the v1.Ax series! At this point, I'm expecting my great-grandchildren to be dead before v2.0 is finished. Hell, they'll probably die before work on v2.0 is even STARTED. |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1665/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| With two people doing the programming work, you're right in expecting 2.0 to arrive well into the future. However, it's not completely off the cards like it used to be. When 2.0 eventually does arrive, we're not going to stop there. Development is a continuous process and there will be upgrades even to 2.0. We know about the other boards out there, and you knew that the code was messy when you started using the system. Any new features introduced in 1.A3, 1.A4 and 1.B are all being put to the test before finally being set in stone for a general release. Our advice is don't upgrade, wait for the next distribution. ||Bass and I have earmarked a number of features we want in 1.A4 and 1.B. After these have been successfully integrated into the community, we will decide whether any more builds are neccessary before making a decision whether we should start the mammoth task of 2.0. |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2836/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| So, it all sounds like the 1.A and soon to be 1.B series of distributions are just "tests" mainly? It sounds good to me, still I'd recommened everyone keep on upgrading to the newest distributions out there, ||bass told me via AIM there were about 30 some major bug fixes in 1.A3, so yeah. If you feel safe still using lower versions, then go ahead I guess. Also, I'm assuming 2.0 will be based off what Acmlm has already somewhat started? (edited by Xeolord on 07-28-05 11:22 AM) |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1666/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| So far, the 1.A series has been a testbed for the development process we've been trying to get in motion. Just get some cool stuff done and some security fixes before starting anything major. You'd have to talk to ||Bass about what 2.0 is going to be based on, I think Ace might've started something but you'd be suprised just how little I know about that. You probably know more than I |
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DarkSlaya POOOOOOOOOOOORN! Level: 88 Posts: 3903/4249 EXP: 6409254 For next: 241410 Since: 05-16-04 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra All points to a "yes" (to the "Does Acmlm actually have started something") |
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Elric Chasupa Currently Playing: You Like A Lute. Level: 40 Posts: 400/687 EXP: 440016 For next: 1293 Since: 03-15-04 From: Melniboné Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| I've always been lead to believe that v2.0 was going to be a brand new board, built from the ground up, instead of just being an "upgrade" to the existing v1.Xx board. As such, I see continual work on the 1.Xx series as a complete, utter waste of time and effort that could be spent working on v2.0. Testing features? Who cares?! They won't be compatible with the new board, so why bother? Get a skeleton for the new board, THEN start developing and testing new features. As I said, aside from security fixes, I don't see ANY point in continuing to work on the current system. It's served it's purpose. Starting work on the new version is the best thing you can do for it. The sooner it's done, the sooner this thing can be laid to rest. |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2893/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| Trust me, work has started on 2.0, I've seen it, Argos has, and others (surprised you haven't Kasumi ). And as far as I've seen and heard, yes v2.0 will be very different and fresh. I wouldn't be so critical about it like that Elric, but that's me. It seems like the 1.Xx series are mainly tests, fresh ideas and concepts, and bug fixing. Once this has all finally been settled down, then several of these things would probably ultimately be converted over to a real and serious 2.0. Although your point is valid and does make sense, first put the real v2.0, then build upon it. I just think ||bass, Kasumi, and others want a lot of time put into this, to make sure 2.0 is done beyond standards, and is setup nicely, and everything. Just my guess though. That's just kind of how I look at it. Honestly though, I don't think we'll be seeing v2.0 for a very long time. (edited by Xeolord on 07-28-05 11:38 PM) |
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Xeon Goomba Level: 7  Posts: 15/25 EXP: 1288 For next: 160 Since: 07-19-05 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| I worked with ||bass to get a few of those include exploits patched. Although I can't disclose what they where because that could destroy the integrity of some of the other Acmlm boards. I was working on my own version of Acmlm, but the code made my head about to burst and I thought it might just be easier to start from scratch (just me though). I also found many files that have no purpose or use in 1.A3 but are there for future expansion. But id say if you are currently running 1.A3 you dont need any of the files with a underscore before them. "_users.php", etc. | |||
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 1668/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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| 2.0 is a big undertaking. We want to make sure that we understand how to implement these new features on a technical level and a user level before completely turning the board up-side down. It's as simple as that. | |||
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2906/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| And hopefully there will be update scripts. |
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