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Dragonsbrethren

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Posted on 07-27-05 07:44 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Super Slash
What? Is this another pathetic question?


No, questions end with a question mark, it was a statement, or better yet a comment.

Ted Woolsey translated FF6, he was forced to cut the script down to fit back in the original alloted space, and then forced to censor many things out of that script because of Nintendo's standards at the time. He also had to deal with censoring graphics that no one with the exception of people like you would find offensive, and then QA people who demanded changes for no good reason (They hated the name "Tina" for no apparent reason). In the end none of it is Woolsey's fault, he just takes the blame because it's his name under "TRANSLATOR" in the credits.

I'd hate to see what you'd think of Sky Render's retranslation...

(edited by Dragonsbrethren on 07-26-05 10:46 PM)
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Posted on 07-27-05 08:54 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Originally posted by Super Slash
What? Is this another pathetic question?


No, questions end with a question mark, it was a statement, or better yet a comment.

Ted Woolsey translated FF6, he was forced to cut the script down to fit back in the original alloted space, and then forced to censor many things out of that script because of Nintendo's standards at the time. He also had to deal with censoring graphics that no one with the exception of people like you would find offensive, and then QA people who demanded changes for no good reason (They hated the name "Tina" for no apparent reason). In the end none of it is Woolsey's fault, he just takes the blame because it's his name under "TRANSLATOR" in the credits.

I'd hate to see what you'd think of Sky Render's retranslation...



I was actually asking if he thought my question was pathetic...
Dragonsbrethren

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Posted on 07-27-05 12:41 PM Link | Quote
Oh, I just naturally assumed you were replying to my comment. Oh well, I felt like making to little post about Woolsey anyway.
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Posted on 07-27-05 12:50 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Super Slash
Instead of me making a new thread, I have a question. How do you edit in-battle text? I mean like Chadarnooks text right when you begin the fight. Please do tell.

"DEMON: The girl in the picture is mine! You can't have her!" <-- is that the line? Well, I probably shouldn't, but this is me having way too much time on my hands. This was written about 4 years ago, and I didn't check for line breaks. And since I have no idea where this text actually is in the rom, it's about all I can offer.

Your logic and reasoning is complete FUBAR, but to each his own.
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Posted on 07-28-05 03:14 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, that is the exact line I'm talking about.
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Posted on 07-28-05 07:51 AM Link | Quote
*shrug* Cut him some slack, guys. Yeah, he's totally skewering the fantastic plotline in FF6, but a hack like this would actually have some real value. I don't exactly support what he's doing, but I can see how watering down the game would be good for trying get a picky grandparent or relative to play it. It could act as a "gateway game", so that someone might compromise and actually see that RPGs are fun. Besides, by censoring all of the naughty bits out of the game, he has to at least know what they are, right? So he's not going to miss out on the real plot.
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Posted on 07-28-05 08:02 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by nayno
*shrug* Cut him some slack, guys. Yeah, he's totally skewering the fantastic plotline in FF6, but a hack like this would actually have some real value. I don't exactly support what he's doing, but I can see how watering down the game would be good for trying get a picky grandparent or relative to play it. It could act as a "gateway game", so that someone might compromise and actually see that RPGs are fun. Besides, by censoring all of the naughty bits out of the game, he has to at least know what they are, right? So he's not going to miss out on the real plot.


besides, i just checked and it turns out he's only 11. He'll come to his senses when he gets older (I hope).
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Posted on 07-28-05 12:31 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by nayno
Besides, by censoring all of the naughty bits out of the game...

"Naughty"

WTF is left that could be considered "naughty?"

The decimation of FF6 includes:
  • Changing Holy to Pearl
  • Removed all of Kefka's swearing, he's way more psychotic than the US version lets on
  • Dead -> Wounded, bleeding means you are "wounded." I suppose when Nappa blew up that chopper there WERE parachutes left, fucktards.
  • Death -> Doom. omg we're doomed, DOOMED! I knew it was "Death" when I was 12 years old, and I didn't cry about it.
  • Nintendo renaming it from FF6 to FF3. Cause like, you know, the US only has 3 games of the series. The rest don't count!
Let's not forget about the 0xFFFF bugs in the game. So please explain what the hell "naughty" is.
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Posted on 07-28-05 08:42 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lenophis
Originally posted by nayno
Besides, by censoring all of the naughty bits out of the game...

"Naughty"

WTF is left that could be considered "naughty?"

The decimation of FF6 includes:
  • Changing Holy to Pearl
  • Removed all of Kefka's swearing, he's way more psychotic than the US version lets on
  • Dead -> Wounded, bleeding means you are "wounded." I suppose when Nappa blew up that chopper there WERE parachutes left, fucktards.
  • Death -> Doom. omg we're doomed, DOOMED! I knew it was "Death" when I was 12 years old, and I didn't cry about it.
  • Nintendo renaming it from FF6 to FF3. Cause like, you know, the US only has 3 games of the series. The rest don't count!
Let's not forget about the 0xFFFF bugs in the game. So please explain what the hell "naughty" is.


Specifically Kefka's "Oh shit!" quote was changed to "Son of a submariner" (don't know about the others,) some of the lady bosses have extra clothes, Cyan's Porno Mag item was removed, and Duane and Katarin having the implied teenage out-of-wedlock element was removed.

(edited by DukeNukem007 on 07-28-05 11:44 AM)
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Posted on 07-29-05 07:42 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lenophis
  • Dead -> Wounded, bleeding means you are "wounded." I suppose when Nappa blew up that chopper there WERE parachutes left, fucktards.


    • Actually, in Japanese this is "unable to battle", apparently to silence the "OMG y didn't th3y use a ph3nix d0wn!!!!11" types when a main character dies.
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    Posted on 07-30-05 10:53 AM Link | Quote
    As a an unorthodox Christian, this thread made my night. Editing a game to make it alright of your religion is feigning ignorance - if it offends you, don't play it. Or play it and try not to be offended. If you edit it, it's like playing a bootleg. It's the same thing...but hell, it doesn't feel like it.
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    Posted on 07-30-05 02:02 PM Link | Quote
    While I think it's a rather trivial and outright closeminded to want to edit someone else's art work to suit your sensibilities, he's within his rights to do so. Making fun is pretty counterproductive at this point.
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