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Scatterheart

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Posted on 06-26-05 01:16 PM Link | Quote
Not so much as a "What's your favorite game in this genre" thread, but what's been the hugest advance in graphics, gameplay, and innovativeness (if that's a word.)

Doesn't matter if the game's 2, 5, or 10 years old, it you think it was a milestone, put it in!!

Side-Scrolling: Super Mario Bros. 3
First Person Shooter: Doom (can't go past the oldies)
Racing: Gran Turismo 1
3D Adventure: Super Mario 64
Puzzle: A tricky one... I'll stick with Puznic at the moment, but it could change with Meteos (NDS)
RPG: Final Fantasy 7 (Not my favorite, but most improvement)

Can't really think of any other genres at the moment... Add you own ofcourse.
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Posted on 06-26-05 01:34 PM Link | Quote
Side-scrolling as a single genre? What?

Anyway:

Action - Space Station Silicon Valley (Not sure what else to classify it as)
Adventure - Zelda: Ocarina of Time / Beyond Good & Evil
Board Game - Wily and Light's RockBoard: That's Paradise
Exploration - Super Metroid / Metroid Prime / Body Harvest (Ufouria gets an honorable mention)
First Person Shooter - Goldeneye / Half Life 2 (Not sure what else to classify the game as..exploration?)
Flying Shootemup - DonPachi
Horror - Eternal Darkness / Resident Evil 4
Multiplayer - Bomberman 64 (could change to an upcoming online DS game, though)
Puzzle - Tetrisphere / Wetrix
Racing - Top Gear Rally / Extreme-G XG3 Racing
RPG - Secret of Mana

I expect there are some oddballs on there that most people haven't tried. I recommend that everyone try at least most of what's on my list, since they're pretty top-notch games.
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Posted on 06-26-05 01:44 PM Link | Quote
Forgot about Tetrisphere. That was a pretty sweet game. I'm gonna download Body Harvest right now. I remember playing that game ages ago when I owned an N64. Not a bad game.
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Posted on 06-26-05 01:49 PM Link | Quote
The Puzzle Milestone was Tetris.

And for offline Multiplayer, be it Mario Kart 64, goldeneye, micromashines or Bomberman Generation (more the latter), but not Bomberman 64.

Simulation: Sim City 2000

Shoot 'em Up: Sexy Parodius / Metal Slug 3
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Posted on 06-26-05 01:56 PM Link | Quote
Ah, Simulation; forgot about that one. Sim City SNES and Sim Tower are my favorite sim games.

I really dislike Tetris because it gets so repetetive. A puzzle game should be addictive and should maintain a high level of fun; I don't think Tetris fits the bill, at least for me. I can't play it for more than 5 or 10 minutes without getting sick of it. As for multiplayer, Bomberman 64 has always been a blast when I break it out for multiplayer gaming, even moreso than Mario Krt 64 or Goldeneye. The gameplay is fun, the levels are great (Pyramid and Greedy Trap, to name a few), playing as a ghost is fun, the last minute of frantic gameplay is a blast, and throwing opponents off of ledges is classic. Everything about it is great and has always been successful when I'm with friends and an N64. I won't deny that Mario Kart 64 and Goldeneye are great multiplayer games, though; they're quite good.
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Posted on 06-26-05 03:42 PM Link | Quote
Hm. Genres.

2D Platformer: SMB3 or Zelda 2.
3D Platformer: Either SM64 or Conker's Bad Fur Day, in totally different ways.
Action: Contra
Action/RPG: Zelda.
Adventure: Monkey Island.
Exploration: Exploration is a genre now? Then Zelda goes here again.
FPS: Half-life, no freaking doubt.
Horror: Eternal Darkness. Totally different perspective on it.
Multiplayer: Worms.
Puzzle: Tetris, though I don't like it.
Racing: Super Mario Kart, though once again, I don't like it too much.
RPG: I'm torn between Chrono Trigger and Earthbound, but let's just say EB.
RTS: Herzog Zwei. It started an entire genre, so I think it goes here.
Simulation: Sim City, the original and the SNES. Both huge leaps.
Space Shooter: Guardian Legend or Ikaruga.
Strategy: Advance Wars. (Famicom Wars to be fair. It made war wacky!) Fire Emblem as well.

I wouldn't say any of these are the pinnacles of their genre, but they fit the bill for revolutionary. All of these either changed the way people looked at that type of game, or just turned the standards upside-down. Hooray for that.


(edited by TheCube on 06-26-05 06:44 AM)
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Posted on 06-26-05 06:28 PM Link | Quote
2D Platformer: Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
3D Platformer: Super Mario 64
Racing, Realistic: Gran Turismo, Sega Rally (arcade)
Racing, Comic: Mario Kart
Shoot-'em-up: Time Crisis 2
Scrolling Shooter: Radiant Silvergun
FPS: Half Life
Beat-'em-up, 3D: Soul Calibur, Soul Calibur 2
Beat-'em-up, 2D: Super Street Fighter Turbo
Third Person Action: Metal Gear Solid
RPG: Final Fantasy VII
Action RPG: Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time
MMORPG: World of Warcraft
Strategy RPG: Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Puzzle: Tetris
Compilation: Sonic Jam
Survival Horror: Resident Evil 2
RTS: Command and Conquer: Red Alert
2D Point'n'click Adventure: Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge
FMV Point'n'click Adventure: Myst 2: Riven
Flight Simulator: X-Wing
Music: Rez
Rhythm Action: Dance Dance Revolution, Gitaroo Man
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Posted on 06-26-05 07:28 PM Link | Quote
2D Platformer: Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (Altought I like Kirby 64 and Kirby Amazing Mirror... SMW2 truly remains undefeated to this day. Long and challenging game (which is surprising for a pre-N64 Mario game) that will keep you coming for more.)

3D Platformer: Donkey Kong 64 (Don't throw tomatoes at me! Really long, deep, and challenging game. Didn't run into bugs during my games unlike nearly everyone else. Altought the game isn't nearly as difficult or engaging as Super Mario Sunshine, Donkey Kong 64 wins in the long run becease that it's simply one of the most massive games I ever played; it's basically as long as a RPG!)

Racing, Realistic: (I hate them, sorry)

Racing, Comic: Mario Kart Doubledash (Mario Kart just cannot be beaten in terms of gameplay both in single and multiplayer. Unlike most others, I'm unnaffected by the "Nostalgia" syndrome and as such, consider the most advanced one as the best. Mario Kart on the DS will most probably outshine this game.)

Shoot-'em-up: Super Turrican 2 (obscure little gem. Only Turrican game that isn't a repeat of the original... and frankly, if they hadn't waited this long to make an original one, the serie would have turned more popular than Contra! Outshine nearly everything else I know... even the mighty Contra 3!)

Scrolling Shooter: Axelay (the game is uber-short... but it's one of those games you just cannot get sick of. Play it and see!)

FPS: Half Life (I like Perfect Dark and all... but Half Life truly is an unique experience... I'm not usually into liking the original over the sequel but frankly, they missed the point with the second one, focusing more on the arcade parts of the game and less on what made the original so different and ultimately, fun... which are the atmosphere, attention to detail, original ways of beating up bosses (rarely would you use a gun), that kind of thing)

Beat-'em-up, 3D: Soul Calibur 2 (HUGE single-player mode, nearly perfectly balanced characters for an excellent multiplayer game. Has a preference for the Gamecube version since Link, unlike Spawn and that other character from the PS2 version whose name I cannot remember, is not over-powered.)

Beat-'em-up, 2D: Super Smash Bros. Melee (this blends genres a bit becease of the single-player mode... but this fits the bill as a 2D fighting game I think. Probably the best game of all times!... until SSB3 comes out.)

Third Person Action: Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes (the original's fantastic gameplay + the second's improve AI and GFX = a winner is the player)

RPG: Tales of Symphonia (buy it, try it, play it, beat it, worship it. Starts up with a cliched story and then ends up throwing more plot twists at you than you can handle and more action-packed battles than every FF ever made. As long as two or three regular RPGs. Paper Mario 2 is actually, in my opinion, the best RPG... but it suffers in terms of lenght and as such, Tales of Symphonia takes the cake becease of Paper Mario 2's issue with it's lenght (not difficulty. Paper Mario 2 is actually one of the harder RPGs out there. Some boss battles, especially the later ones, are quite brutal!).)

Action RPG: Secret of Mana 2 (knows the real name... but forgot how it's written. Anyway, it's like Secret of Mana exept your character stays in the middle of the screen unstead of the edge (which is a HUUUUUGE improvement over the original) and lobs you with more game time than one could handle. If you tought the original was long... then wait until you try the sequel! Add in this the fact that you get to have 3 main variations to the story and 6 points of view for the story and you have plenty of game time in front of you!)

MMORPG: (paying monthly after I bought the game? F**k that.)

2D Adventure: Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past (Guardian Legend was a good contender for this place altought it's more of a hybrid... but Link to the Past takes the cake becease of lenght issue and while Guardian Legend is only beaten by the Metroid Prime serie in terms of sheer diffuclty, it isn't a very engaging experience at first and it takes a while before you can get into the game (mainly, it takes a while before you can clear the fiendishly difficult prologue stage and then gets to orient yourself into the main maze when you actually reach it) while Link to the Past is a no-brainer in terms of introduction, making you jump directly into the action and story. Minish Cap was way too short to stand a chance and while the Oracles serie beats them all in terms of game time, the game does get a bit tedious at times)

3D Adventure: Metroid Prime 2 Echoes (the original proved Metroid in 3D could work, the second makes it even better! People were disappointed becease they espected another revolution while the second game is, in fact, an evolution. Bigger, stronger, harder, better than the original... I just don't understand why people are disappointed here... maybe becease I usually supress my hype before playing a new game? Anyway... Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are really fine games but both Metroid Prime games murders them and brutally at that! One of the best games of all times.)

Puzzle: Pokemon Puzzle League (AKA Tetris Attack 2. I would have said Tetris Attack 3 if it would have been released in America, allowing me to try it. Anyway, it's a bloody fine game we have here! Try it or else)

Survival Horror: Resident Evil 4 (Capcom, the champion of making old and tired series does the impossible: revive it's most tired serie! Just like Metroid Prime, there was little hype here after the last Resident Evil games... but we had a revolution the size of what Metroid Prime brought. Resident Evil? Dead? You wish! Only Resident Evil that has bosses that aren't totally pathetic by the way... and also the only game where the zombies actually think before charging toward you, seeking to eat your brains out (or later on, to laser-saber your brains out. Got a bit of a laugh out of the later zombies' electric swords. Yep! That's right! The zombies now got weapons and believe me, they know how to use them!).)

RTS: Starcraft (unchallenged champion of all strategy games. THE most balanced game in all history... and also packs one of the best single-player campaigns ever designed. You just cannot help but like this game. Warcraft 3 and Command & Conquer just cannot touch this gem... well, maybe Tiberian Sun can but it's plague with a design flaw (WEED!!! AAAAARG!). Along with Metroid Prime 2, one of the only games that can compare to SSBM)


(edited by Zerodius on 06-26-05 10:29 AM)
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Posted on 06-26-05 08:14 PM Link | Quote
Zerodius... Scatterheart already said that this wasn't about your favorite games in the genre, but the biggest advance in gameplay, graphics, and innovation (to use the correct word).

Scatterheart: Time to be picky. I gotta edit this thread title. Spelling errors irritate me. Although, going by Dictionary.com, that's not the right word anyway, but... I'm still gonna fix the spelling.

I've played too few games to really pick anything for these, unfortunately.
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Well... made a very stupid mistake I guess...

Anyway, my last post will remain there until I get back from my vacation (I want to save the post's content on my computer and since I need to use my computer to do that... that means this post will remain there for a while).

This post as well as my last one will be deleted once the post's content has been saved.
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Action - Super Metroid
Adventure - Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Exploration - The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
First Person Shooter - Doom
Flying Shootemup - Stargunner
Puzzle - Tetris
Racing - F-Zero
RPG - Lufia Series
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RPG - Chrono Trigger
Puzzle - Lemmings <3
Sidescrolling - Cave Story (would also fit for RPG)
Strategy - Civilization II and 1602 AD (both share #1 for me; the latter is hardly known outside Germany)
3D Platformer - Super Mario RPG
Multiplayer - Worms
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Posted on 06-27-05 01:39 AM Link | Quote
Oh boy... This is gonna be tough and some picks are going to be out of left field. Plus I'll probably end up changing half of these picks if you were to ask me a week from now.

Action (2D): Super Mario Bros. 3
Action (3D): Super Mario 64
Adventure (2D): Super Metroid/Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Adventure (3D): Zelda: Ocarina of Time
RPG: Final Fantasy VI
Puzzle: Tetris (everything evolved from it)
Simulation: Theme Park (it did a lot of unique things at the time which were later copied by other sims, and was without peer at the time)
Management: Football Manager 2005
FPS: Doom
Shoot-em-up: Gradius/Gunstar Heroes
Racing: Super Mario Kart/Gran Turismo
Wrestling: Fire Pro Wrestling R (isn't out yet but all the improvements being put into the game make it almost certain it'll be the wrestling game that all others are judged by)

Zerodius: I might get Tales of Symphonia whenever I get some cash... It just became a Player's Choice title but I'm wondering if it's only Player's Choice in Canada.
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Posted on 06-27-05 02:37 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by blackhole89

Multiplayer - Worms


I knew I forgot something!
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Posted on 06-27-05 08:18 AM Link | Quote
Tactical Espionage Action: Metal Gear Solid
Putting fingers up peoples' butts: Boon-Ga Boon-Ga
Rolling things into a ball: Katamari Damacy
Platformer where you draw the platforms: Kirby Canvas Curse
Simulated MMORPG: .hack// series
Bongo-controlled platformer: Donkey Kong Jungle Beat

More as I think of them
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Posted on 06-27-05 08:33 AM Link | Quote
Oh, well if we're going to get really specific...

Action game featuring snakes: Snake, Rattle n' Roll
Online MMO sports: Hattrick
Entry-level RPG: Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Dungeon crawling adventure/RPG: Nethack

And people say originality is done in gaming...
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2D Platformer: Megaman
Racing, Realistic: Project Gothom
Racing, Comic: Mario Kart
FPS: Halo
Action: Metal Gear Solid
RPG: Elder Scrolls 3 : Morrowind
Action RPG: Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time
MMORPG: Everquest
Strategy RPG: Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Survival Horror: Resident Evil
RTS: StarCraft (Though Warcraft 3 was more fun, this one brought on the RTS genre en masse)
Rhythm Action: DDR


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(edited by Reid on 06-27-05 12:30 AM)
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Comedy (Yes, that should be its own genre): Conker's Bad Fur Day *sings the Amighty Great Poo's song*
RTS: Rise of Nations
Racing: Forza Motorsport
Touch: Kirby Canvas Curve
Mini-Game Game: Wario Ware.
Use of Outside Controller: DDR
Turn Based: Worms

More when I think of them.
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RTS: Starcraft: Brood War
-Platformers-
2D: Super mario Bros 3/Kirby's Dreamland 3/Super Metroid/Vectorman/Super Castlevania 4
3D: Super Mario 64 DS
RPG: Final Fantsy VI/Star Ocean (SF)
FPS: The World Is Not Enough (N64)/Halo/Doom 2
Puzzle: Tetris
Action/Adventure: Zelda: Ocarina of Time
MMORPG: Everquest 2
Survival Horror: Resident Evil 4/Fatal Frame
Racing: Mario Kart 64
Sport: NBA Jam. Everything else wwas shit. Shitty shit shitty shitty shit shit.
Beat Em Up: Gunstar Heroes/ Golden Axe 3
Stealth: Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Shooter: Gradius/Defender/R-Type 3/Firepower 2000
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Posted on 06-27-05 11:44 AM Link | Quote
for fighting... I'd have to say it's one of the three things

1. Street Fighter 2
2. Mortal Kombat
3. Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 (despite it being a very horrible game. Don't shoot me for saying that)
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