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Yoshi Dude XKEEPER STOLE MY CAR KEYS Level: 79  Posts: 2161/3271 EXP: 4572680 For next: 6787 Since: 03-15-04 From: give me a number folks. Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Recently, in the San Francisco area, a 12 year-old boy was killed by two pitbulls. The parents insisted that the dogs were always sweet, same with their neighbors, giving the impression that they just snapped. Of course everyone bought into this. It was on the front page of our paper, something similar to TWO PITBULLS KILL BOY. I firmly believed that the dogs didn't snap, that the owners were irresponsible in some way. Then a few days ago, an update was printed in the paper that the mother locked her boy in the basement while going to the store because she was afraid of the dogs acting weird. He somehow got out of the basement and got killed. First, why not lock the dogs in the basement? Were they just that horrible? A loving dog does not just snap and kill a member of the family. It's obvious that they were neglected, but the article about the pitbulls killing a boy brought suggestions to limit the amount of pitbulls allowed in the city. That is such bull. I'm sick of everyone thinking pitbulls are inheritly evil, that is not the case. You have to make a dog bad, they don't become that way. And of course, pitbills aren't the only dogs capable of killing. I know rotweilers have a bad rap too, but attention is never brought to other dog killings. My mom used to collect articles of all dogs reported to kill or attack, and every time it was a pitbull, it would be mentioned in the headline. But if it was any other breed, it'd just say "dog". It NEVER failed. It's because everyone is misinformed, and it sucks. We're moving this summer, and we have to get this condo that's fairly pricy for us. We have to rent a place because we have a dog. Cheaper places were available, but we couldn't get them. Not because we have a dog, but because it was a pitbull. I remember this one place where the woman, upon learning we had a dog, immediately went "Is it a pitbull or rotweiler?" And my mom said it was a mutt, because we didn't crop our dog's ears, so maybe we could've fooled her. But apparently they're trained for that sort of trick, it has something to do with insurance. She kept demanding she see our dog. She was pretty nasty about it. When my mom went to see the place with another couple who was wanting to rent, a guy walking two pits, one adult and one puppy, went by. The woman renting the place and the other couple went on about how pitbulls are pure evil and all. My mom said nothing, which bugged me because she usually doesn't take shit. It just annoys me. Pitbulls can be the sweetest companions, and damn yappy toy dogs can be horrible. It's like, breed racism. |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 9980/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Yoshi Dude No dog is inheritly evil. It |
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King_Killa Koopa Level: 15  Posts: 11/117 EXP: 15096 For next: 1288 Since: 06-13-05 From: Shangri-La Since last post: 37 days Last activity: 18 days |
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Yoshi Dude XKEEPER STOLE MY CAR KEYS Level: 79 Posts: 2164/3271 EXP: 4572680 For next: 6787 Since: 03-15-04 From: give me a number folks. Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by King_KillaNo, that's wrong. The whole point of my post is that pitbulls aren't naturally worse than any other dogs. They can just cause more damage, and they have a violent history, with being trained to dog fight and all. But that isn't instinct, and it doesn't make them evil, it makes the owners evil. A pitbull can make just as sweet of a family dog as a lab can. Originally posted by King_KillaI really thought he was locked in the basement. I don't have the article with me, but either way, she obviously should be punished. This happens a lot, and I hate it. The dog goes nuts and owners say it was complete surprise, to avoid their own responsibility. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 4105/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| It is people who breed the dogs to be vicious. It is people that train the dogs to be vicious. As a dog owner, I've been sending out petitions that are asking to add an additional level of licensing to the process of dog ownership, to prevent people from purchasing and abusing dogs to turn them into machines that are unsuitable for residential inhabitance. Pitbulls are one of the most docile breeds. The reason that they're abused is because they are strong and have dulled nerve endings and a lock jaw. They're the best dog with children. Snoopy is one. Buster Brown's dog is one. Until quite recentely, they were seen as the perfect family pet. |
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King_Killa Koopa Level: 15 Posts: 12/117 EXP: 15096 For next: 1288 Since: 06-13-05 From: Shangri-La Since last post: 37 days Last activity: 18 days |
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| I'm not saying that pit bulls can't be great dogs. I'm saying that some of them DO have more aggressive instict than other breeds. I know people that have pit bulls that have NEVER mistreated them, but the dog still is agressive. It is humans fault that pit bulls are aggressive, but after years and years of people making them aggressive, some become instictivly aggressive. Take a coyote pup, and raise it like a dog. More than likely, one day he'll attack you, or someone else. You didn't raise him to do it, he just did it. Dogs aren't much different. Dogs are great, because they have been kept as pets for hundreds of years. They still have instict. | |||
Dark Vampriel Lynel "Life is just a dream on the way to death." Level: 57  Posts: 1240/1658 EXP: 1400355 For next: 85573 Since: 08-29-04 From: Somewhere..... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| People need to learn that the owners are the ones that are responsibly for how they take care of their dog, which can lead it to be a sweetheart or very aggressive. My best friend's mom has two pitbulls and they're both sweethearts. Even though they got them from the pound and hasn't even had them for a year yet. | |||
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King_Killa Koopa Level: 15 Posts: 13/117 EXP: 15096 For next: 1288 Since: 06-13-05 From: Shangri-La Since last post: 37 days Last activity: 18 days |
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| http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/06/04/MNGCUD3O5G1.DTL this article explains that pit bulls can be wonderful pets, but that they also have more aggressive intinct than most other breeds. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4107/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Based on family lineage, and purity of the blood yes. Unfortunately, that article was totally not written by a professional breeder and it offers up no knowledge of the true intricasies of breeding the dogs, nor how much work goes into breeding in aggressive traits. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 3203/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| One stat I like to know is how many "maulings" occur with breeds that are neither rotweilers or pit bulls because yes, every time someone is seriously injured by a dog is in the news, the dog is either of those two breeds. So, I'd like to know how many of the other cases just aren't reported. I do agree that every dog is poses some threat--every 40 seconds someone is injured by a dog and it is hard for me to fathom that they are all due to those two breeds limiting breeds is no different than genocide to me another thing i wonder is SF the only place where stuff like this happens? I mean, within this decade, there have been only three significant "mauling" events... |
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Danielle Local Moderator  Level: 76  Posts: 370/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by King_Killa They're more aggressive if you let them be. I think that was the whole point of this thread. If you raise a pitbull like you would a little yapper, they wont turn out any different with how they act around people. The thing is people seem to take a pitbull or breeds like it and raise it aggressively, simply so they can have a big manly dog to show off. That's wrong, and that's why they are stereotyped. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 4382/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Ziff Snoopy is a beagle. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4112/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Not according to this Peanuts anthology. But I guess it could be wrong. Meh. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4388/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Ziff Yeh, ya are. I mean, he looks nothing like a pitbull and everything like a beagle anyway. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4115/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| He don't look too brown to me. And the book states he is a mutt. Half pitbull, half beagle. Morphology wise, he looks more like a mastiff of some sort. Nothing like a beagle. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4390/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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I've never seen anyone with squiggly hair like Charlie Brown. He must not be human then.  Snoopy isn't a mutt, in the Peanuts world he's officially a beagle. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4116/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, according to this here Peanuts anthology, it says that he's a mutt. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 4391/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Explain the title of this book then. D: | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4117/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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 I must be high right now. I was reading a book on Lil' Rascals. |
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Some Dude Micro-Goomba Spamming, Multiple Account Level: 6 Posts: 6/13 EXP: 631 For next: 276 Since: 05-05-05 Since last post: 139 days Last activity: 138 days |
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| hmm i think the dogs are cool when there small. but when there big you should really be careful with the small children. i use to have a pit myself , he was always tame during his first three years, but sincemy cuisin was training him to be a guard dog we took him to a ranch. Iv only heard of him when i go there, he still recognises me, yet his killed quite some dogs about 4 of my uncles dogs. so i say the dogs should only be kept in a safe area and use them to guard stuff not as pets. oh yeah since i left him we got a poodle, his name is snoopy his a good dog, not for fighting tho. |
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