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Utilityman Like Like Level: 44 Posts: 487/813 EXP: 566605 For next: 44680 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 353 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Groups will often have samples there for download, but you'll never see an entire album lined up. | |||
alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 448/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Utilityman Many smaller international bands will put up full albums or demos. I know many who have. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 140/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Yeah, I know of a few bands who have put up single songs or full albums. It gets their music out there and heard In fact, I applaud those artists that do that. And there are a number of sites that do offer independent artists' music (with the artists permission) out there too But remember guys, filesharing isn't just about music! There's also all the pictures, programs, movies, TV shows, etc out there too Some of that stuff is available freely (open source stuff, etc) some of it is proprietary, and thus filesharing can be utilised as a tool for piracy. But filesharing in and of itself is NOT wrong. It is merely a tool, a way of sharing data. If that data happens to be MP3 files that a band have released freely, it's perfectly fine! If that data happens to be Open Source software, it's also perfectly fine! Filesharing is just a medium for the sharing of data and information. It's just that filesharing can be abused; and frequently is. Filesharing itself is a GOOD thing! Just like CD-R's and RW's can be used for so many good things, like backing up your data, etc, CD-R's can also be abused for piracy and copyright infringement purposes. But that doesn't mean CD-R's are bad. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 722/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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MP3.com is (was?) totally legal. If a file's posted there, then the artist/band gave permission for it to go up. I doubt you'd ever find a slew of copyrighted material on there. The site would have been shut down a long time ago. |
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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56 Posts: 99/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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And whaddya know... it has been shut down. Or at least bought out and the contents deleted. Kind of funny Gandalf would mention DVD's... one of the biggest reasons DVD sales kick the shit out of CD sales is because they're relatively cheap. The MPAA gets it, at least more than the RIAA. Even their anti-piracy ads make sense... instead of bemoaning the fate of the actors, they go on about how you're screwing the regular guys. However, things'll probably change once access and technology catch up to video. |
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Jizuko Jiz Is The Magic! This board has run out of mana and can no longer use The Magic Level: 51 Posts: 140/1191 EXP: 1004683 For next: 9255 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 230 days Last activity: 213 days |
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Filesharing doesn't hurt salesfigures And intellectual property should be free. It has been for ages. I got a flash with a guy on a convention that speaks of it. After walt disney STOLE all the characters from the grim brothers, the copyright law came into effect, for what? 40years after the author is dead? Well guess what, everytime the law was about to expire for little disney, the law got increased by one year at a time, now it's up to 75years after the author is dead I think. So, Disney made sure that no one can do to them what they did to someone else. I know sure as hell that I'm not going to go out and buy an expensive ass game that I'll only play for a week. When I can download it for free. Especially since I wouldn't have bought it anyway if I didn't have filesharing as an alternative. (See link in the start of the post) I also heard that artists earn more money when they tour rather on their albums. The musicindustry takes all the money just to publish an artists cd's. I got a friend that is really into copyrightlaws and stuff like that. I should bring him here so he can talk about it |
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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 180/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Not to mention that most files shared, are obscure things, you can't just buy in the next shop or on eBay. Like J-Pop or Movies or really old recordings. And here in Switzerland it's perfectly Legal to download anything (except Childporn, wich is excessive hunted after by the police and the government), but not to upload it. And the Music Industry is complaining about less CD-Sales. Hello? They don't buy only Audio-CDs, since 1998, the introduction of DVDs, and growing of the Videogamemarket, made people buy not only CDs, but DVDs and Videogames to. |
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Jill In love with a dream.. Level: 36 Posts: 86/528 EXP: 296548 For next: 11562 Since: 03-15-04 From: Teh Sweden Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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Well that's neat, since the RIAA are rich men with no intellect that think downloading music for free gives money to terrorists (or equally stupid ideas) I think this is a step in the right direction. Not that I thought of it as illegal before this . | |||
KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 181/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Found a interessting Text about Software Piracy. Notice that it was written back in 1998. And this one from the year 2000. He got some mail from the MPAA. (edited by KawaiiImoto-e on 04-05-04 07:40 AM) |
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Banedon Giant Red Paratroopa Level: 55 Posts: 369/1408 EXP: 1291380 For next: 22809 Since: 03-15-04 From: Michigan Since last post: 101 days Last activity: 90 days |
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Copyright laws seek to discourage retro-gaming. When a company stops selling a certain piece of software, such as an old videogame, they basically prevent more people from playing the game. The software companies don't care. Being the greedy capitalist enterprises that they are, all they care about is money. I will use, as an example, the King's Quest series, the first game in which was released way back in 1984. Sierra not only does not produce and sell the games anymore, it also does not support them. Then why the heck do they make a big fuss about people sharing the games and their ingenious copy-protection codes over the Internet? They make exactly the same amount of money either way ($0.00). The era of copyrighted abandonware must end. |
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