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XeYaTan
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Posted on 06-10-05 05:28 AM Link | Quote
Guys, as you can see this is my first post, which means I am a newbie (but you guys don't care so nvm). Anyway, Captain Tsubasa 2 is my first game that I try to hack (text hack) and I have been doing good, until I met some odd problems. Here is the problem:

There are some letters, that are normal and that I can translate using hex editor. But there are also letters like this one . This one is actually with above it, so it's kinda 2 in once place. So when I try to find the word in hex editor (Hexposure) I can't, because the number for the letter is not the same. Can anyone please tell me, how I can edit such a letter?

Note: I can change the letters from the pattern, but that's no solution.


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Posted on 06-10-05 06:07 AM Link | Quote
Quick answer - the tile number is the letter ID in the ROM. You find the letter ID followed by the other symbol. They are sequential in the ROM image. I already hacked a japanese game (Saint Seiya) and could figured out very easily.


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Posted on 06-10-05 08:08 AM Link | Quote
If I understand right, you're asking how the game is able to draw the circle (what is that called anyway?) above the letter? I don't know about this game in particular, but I messed around a bit with the Japanese version of Pok
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Posted on 06-10-05 02:48 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
If I understand right, you're asking how the game is able to draw the circle (what is that called anyway?) above the letter? I don't know about this game in particular, but I messed around a bit with the Japanese version of Pok
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Posted on 06-10-05 07:35 PM Link | Quote
Couldn't you just remove those graphics from the pattern tables? Why is that not a 'real' solution? The simplest solutions are often the best.
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Posted on 06-10-05 07:36 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Disch
Couldn't you just remove those graphics from the pattern tables? Why is that not a 'real' solution? The simplest solutions are often the best.

You mean the circle thing? Even if I did, the code won't change, and I want to change the code. And If I remove all letters still same problem, I just won't be able to write the names. Example:

If I want to translate a normal word that doesn't have any circles or werid things above, let's say TsuHyuMa, so it would be something like 04030C, so I change these with other hex decimals and tara, it's translated.

If I want to translate a word where a circle is above a letter let's say, TsuHyuMa(ma with a circle above) it would be 0403 ......then the 0C may come after a couple of lines, and sometimes I can't even find it. And If I edit it nothing changes

Was that a better explained?


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Posted on 06-10-05 11:10 PM Link | Quote
I already had understood it. Anyway, AFAIK, the symbol placed in the upper side of a few japanese chars are identified by its ID. It means if you replace it by a "normal" symbol, then this symbol will FOLLOW the actual.
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Posted on 06-11-05 01:49 AM Link | Quote
I guess you just need to study the text system a bit more than. If the letter you can't find is the one with the circle above it, then the game may be using a different code for it rather than 0C.

Also I'm pretty sure you can't have Ma with a circle over it.
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Posted on 06-12-05 04:09 PM Link | Quote
I actually found the code for some different words, and I can see, that they use a new code every time? It just means that I have to find a word without any odd letters that is somewhere near the word I want to translate, in order to find the word I seek
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Posted on 06-12-05 04:15 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by XeYaTan
I actually found the code for some different words, and I can see, that they use a new code every time? It just means that I have to find a word without any odd letters that is somewhere near the word I want to translate, in order to find the word I seek


Well, you gotta think about why the circle's there in the first place. It is added to hiragana and katakana that start with an h or an f and it converts the h/f sound to a p sound. My guess, from the little I know about this, is that there is some sort of special flag somewhere that indicates a letter's gonna have either the circle or the " (which makes a consonant voiced) above it. I imagine that if you look hard enough, you'll find a way to "blank" it out, simply not have it put there.

EDIT: If it looks like it uses a different code every time, be sure! You don't want to give yourself more trouble than you have to!


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Posted on 06-12-05 04:37 PM Link | Quote
You sure it's not using some form of compression then?

Also the " just gives it a 'b' sound, just like how the circle does 'p'.
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