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Aioria Boss Bass  Yes I will!! ;D  Middle Ages Warrior Level: 58 Posts: 1459/1567 EXP: 1516086 For next: 61460 Since: 03-15-04 From: near the pneumon ultramicroscop icsilicovolcanoconiosis land Since last post: 19 days Last activity: 19 days |
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| How would you introduce someone to progressive rock? Usually it is quite hard for people fans of mainstream artists appreciate this genre mainly coz of the lenght and complexity of the songs. Anyway, i always start with Pink Floyd, the most accessible prog band imo, mainly with songs like "Time", "Welcome to the Machine" or "Sheep". Then, i show the longer epics, like "Dogs" and "Echoes". And if the person wants to be delighted by 26 minutes of pure masterpiece and be already somewhat into the genre's complexity, i bring the song "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" to thier ears  I guess the other accessible band would be King Crimson, mainly the album "Red". "Discipline" is a bit Talking Heads esque, i guess its due to Adrian Belew's influence, but it has a very goofy and pleasant intro song called "Elephant Talk" where elephant noise are smartly done by the guitar. After the person knowing more of the genre, i guess it is time to show more 'hard' bands like Genesis and Yes. Genesis' album Foxtrot is pretty hard to sink into, it takes several listens to grow on you, but once it does it becomes one of your fav prog ones. About Yes, it is good to introduce the person with the album Fragile since it has songs like Roundabout which is a pretty accessible one. Then, to the 'harder' ones, like Gates of Delirium, Sound Chaser, South Side of the Sky and Close to the Edge. If the person does love a challenge, bring the album Pawn Hearts by Van der Graff Generator. I am having trouble on enjoying this album, it takes a LOT of time to get into it, and i already love the first track of it: Lemmings. But i am starting to enjoying the otehr 2 ones from this album. Anyway, how would you introduce someone to progressive rock? i already gave my 2 cents here |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 1845/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| well forcing someone to like a genre is difficult at best. I would generally play something for them that is catchy and easy to like at first. For example, with Pink Floyd I'd probably play them something from the wall, since its tracks tend to be shorter. Money from Dark Side would also be good. generally then they might go home and listen to it on their own time or download it in their own time... but either way you can't make someone like something, even if you think it's the cream of the crop. P.S. even people who like Pink Floyd tend to like different periods and albums. I personally don't care for anything after 1980, and I could do without stuff before 1969, though Ummagumma is a pretty weird album. And I've also grown to hate the song "Wish You Were Here" b/c every half wit guitar player thinks he can play it like Dave. You people need to learn some other Floyd songs... (edited by MathOnNapkins on 05-19-05 07:07 PM) |
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Aioria Boss Bass Yes I will!! ;D Middle Ages Warrior Level: 58 Posts: 1460/1567 EXP: 1516086 For next: 61460 Since: 03-15-04 From: near the pneumon ultramicroscop icsilicovolcanoconiosis land Since last post: 19 days Last activity: 19 days |
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Originally posted by MathOnNapkins yeah, those albums after the The Wall sure show the floyd losing inspiration, but there's still some decent stuff, like, The Final Cut is a perfect sequel to The Wall, but it is kinda boring and poor musically. The lyrics make it shine though. AMLOR is nothing special, it has some nice tunes like Signs of Life, On the Turning Away, Sorrow etc, and it is vey 80's-ish, but it is pretty good for a 80's album  The DIvision Bell is the strongest of all 3, and if it didnt have songs like Take it Back and Coming Back to Life it would be an -almost- perfect floyd album. I just discovered an italian prog band called Premiata Formeria Marconia, anyone who enjoy Genesis and the like will may also like this band. by the way Math, i also dont like the song Wish You Were Here too much (i love its message for Syd Barrett and the amazing lyrics though), but i prefer all the other songs from the album |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81  Posts: 1869/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| I have nothing to say, other than I'm a little confused here. Well I guess Progressive Rock [Pink Floyd according to you], and Progressive Metal [Stratovarius / Symphony X] are "quite" different. |
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Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 1799/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Rush are quality prog. You could start with Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures, which are their most accessible albums from their proggy period. I'll second Fragile and Close to the Edge from Yes, and throw in the criminally underrated Drama album as well. And I feel the same way about Yes that you guys do about Pink Floyd--pretty much all their 80s material was...well, I like to say it was released by "A band with Chris Squire on bass and Jon Anderson on vocals that called themselves Yes". |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 1878/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| Rush? So would you consider Boston, Kansas, or bands like that Prog? (they seem similar to me at least, awesome bands I might add) (edited by Darth Xeodious on 05-20-05 11:08 AM) |
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| I'd make them listen to Dream Theater. | |||
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| Dream Theater is more along the lines of prog metal than prog rock. | |||
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Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 1805/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Darth Xeodious Some Kansas, certainly. Boston is stretching it a bit. Also consider that Rush's most mainstream material isn't their proggiest...that would go to their 2112, A Farewell to Kings and Hemispheres albums, whose format (2112's and Hemispheres especially) more closely follow that of some of the proggy Yes albums--hugeass song as the leadoff track (Or the "A-side", as it was back when they were released), and some shorter tracks on the rest of the album. |
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