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francoispress Goomba Level: 8  Posts: 17/30 EXP: 2158 For next: 29 Since: 05-14-05 Since last post: 168 days Last activity: 167 days |
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| If mario is made up of 16x16 tiles when he moves it appears that he only moves one pixel at a time or more if he's running. He does not appear to move tile by tile. I need to know something about his tiles. If the scene is made of tiles then that means that they must be properly aligned in a matrix, right? So does Mario have like 16 different tiles depicting his movement through the matrix? I'm saying, are there tiles that depict the Mario Sprite progressively moving? Maybe I don't understand how Mario moves. Is it matrix-like movement or completely independent of a matrix? I'm really lost here. I need some good explanation. |
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Smallhacker Green Birdo SMW Hacking Moderator Level: 68  Posts: 1621/2273 EXP: 2647223 For next: 81577 Since: 03-15-04 From: Söderhamn, Sweden Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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| Blocks moves tile by tile. Sprites moves pixel by pixel. | |||
d4s Panser Level: 29  Posts: 210/325 EXP: 142151 For next: 5734 Since: 03-23-04 Since last post: 13 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by francoispress tiles dont move per se, only tilelayers do. everything moves pixel by pixel, tilelayers and sprites. theres no such thing as tilebased movement for the snes, unless you move a layer or a sprite by 8 pixels each frame. |
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XPeter Fuzz Ball Level: 42  Posts: 448/963 EXP: 501695 For next: 19667 Since: 01-24-05 From: South Ireland Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 26 min. |
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francoispress Goomba Level: 8 Posts: 19/30 EXP: 2158 For next: 29 Since: 05-14-05 Since last post: 168 days Last activity: 167 days |
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Originally posted by peter_ac You truely act like Buster Beetle. Perhaps you are related to him, no? |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 6470/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| What the... Make some sense, damn you. | |||
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francoispress Goomba Level: 8 Posts: 21/30 EXP: 2158 For next: 29 Since: 05-14-05 Since last post: 168 days Last activity: 167 days |
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Originally posted by Kyouji Craw You must be buddies with peter_ac. I'll just ignore you guys. Hopefully you will go away. |
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XPeter Fuzz Ball Level: 42 Posts: 451/963 EXP: 501695 For next: 19667 Since: 01-24-05 From: South Ireland Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 26 min. |
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| a buster beetle? explain, please. | |||
Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 845/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Let's get this train wreck back on track, please. | |||
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francoispress Goomba Level: 8 Posts: 22/30 EXP: 2158 For next: 29 Since: 05-14-05 Since last post: 168 days Last activity: 167 days |
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Originally posted by peter_ac You never played Mario 3? That character is not very nice. In other words I didn't like your comment. I wish you would have answered the question that I asked in the thread rather than putting that picture. That's doesn't help anybody. |
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Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 846/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| *ahem* Seriously, next off topic post this puppy gets closed. |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 1248/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| In the other thread made by you about sprite interaction, someone posted that Mario's sprite has a one pixel overhang when he is standing on the ground. I would like to know the offset in hex that would make it so he doesn't do this.....that is, if there is a possible offset(s). | |||
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francoispress Goomba Level: 8 Posts: 26/30 EXP: 2158 For next: 29 Since: 05-14-05 Since last post: 168 days Last activity: 167 days |
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Originally posted by Keikonium I think you have to mess with the program itself. Maybe they made it like that so that it looks like Mario is actually standing on the ground. |
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XPeter Fuzz Ball Level: 42 Posts: 452/963 EXP: 501695 For next: 19667 Since: 01-24-05 From: South Ireland Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 26 min. |
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| I managed to get around that when making the SMB3 mario, i just shifted everything up by one pixel, simple. excuse me francois, that was rude of me. my apologies. @Kei again, it's all down to sprite placement, an area in hex which hasn't been explored yet. every sprite is placed one pixel lower than its tile, except for mario which is placed two pixels below. but his default gfx have a blank line on the bottom anyway. i have know idea why Nintendo did this, but i'll look into that area later this summer, and i'll be sure to post my findings. | |||
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francoispress Goomba Level: 8 Posts: 27/30 EXP: 2158 For next: 29 Since: 05-14-05 Since last post: 168 days Last activity: 167 days |
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Originally posted by peter_ac Thanks for the apology.  Maybe they wanted to make Mario look like he was in the ground. If you have a ground that is supposed to be grassy (i. e. the forrest levels) then it would make sense to have his feet be in the grass rather than on top of it. Probably the other sprites were placed incorrectly but that's just a speculation. Why hasn't this area been explored yet? Is it too complicated to be decoded or is it hard to find? |
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Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57  Posts: 565/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| That and no-one has needed to change anything there yet, so no-one mapped it out. Perhaps you could try? | |||
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XPeter Fuzz Ball Level: 42 Posts: 454/963 EXP: 501695 For next: 19667 Since: 01-24-05 From: South Ireland Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 26 min. |
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| mikeyk was the first person to map out mario's tilemap, because he needed to configure mario's head for raccoon mario. he only discovered a small portion of it though. using his work as a starting point, i expanded on this data and fully explored the area. i posted my findings on the ice board but i don't think it's any good to anyone. i only did all this so that i could animate my smb3 mario properly. (edited by peter_ac on 05-17-05 03:04 AM) (edited by peter_ac on 05-17-05 03:05 AM) |
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Smallhacker Green Birdo SMW Hacking Moderator Level: 68 Posts: 1625/2273 EXP: 2647223 For next: 81577 Since: 03-15-04 From: Söderhamn, Sweden Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by peter_ac *Ehem* ...Seriously... I plan to have Mario Tilemap editing as a feature in my SEEKRET PROJEKT!! |
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