Originally posted by d4s

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2) ripping graphics from commercial games is a trivial task and involves minimal work for the ripper.
imho, he shouldnt be credited at all.
some people are actually proud of their so-called ripping abilities.
personally, i'd feel ashamed to do so.

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Originally posted by Kyouji Craw

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Yes! Let us ask! Tomorrow I will ask Nintendo if it would be alright to use their graphics in Super Mario All Stars for an illegal hack of Super Mario World. I will also provide directions to my house, should they want to explain their answer in person or by mail for some reason.

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Originally posted by TheCube

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Actually, depending on the source, ripping can be fairly difficult, especially if you don't wanna screw up the original palettes. It's not exactly a skill, per se, but it is something that, honestly, I'm not willing to do. It's tedious, time consuming, and fairly unrewarding (at least for me). People who do difficult rips at least deserve some props for going through something that I really don't have the willpower to go through with.

Anyway, if I were to use rips that other people ripped, I'd be sure to give them credit. They saved me time and effort, so they at least deserve that. No, ripping isn't a skill like creating graphics is, but it is a task in any case.

Also, some people (read: Me) have practically nil in the way of graphical skills. Ripping is a way of giving a unique feel to the hack without having to spend hours on some hand-drawn graphic that's going to suck in the end anyway.

You're right about the rest of the stuff, though. I just wanted to point out that ripping isn't a five-minute no-work job.

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well, ive never used lunar magic, its possible that you have to arrange all the tiles by hand in lm (wich would suck), but basically, theres the tileset (exgfx*.bin), the
palette(s) (*.mw3) and the map16 page.

if i wanted to rip a bg, id just make a screenshot of it, convert it to snes tiles, palettes and tilemap with nevikstis pcx2snes and would be done in about a minute.
i dont know wich palette entries in cg-ram are useable for the bg in smw, so youd probably have to move the palettes around a bit and set the equivalent palette entries in the tilemap,
but thats about the only difficulty i can think of and that wouldnt take longer than 10 minutes, either.

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(edited by d4s on 04-19-05 04:43 AM)

Originally posted by Trashykins

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RAR DON'T STEAL MY GRAPHICS. You know, even though 90% of them are ripped from other games.

Heh.

If someone wants to go so far as to use RLM to crack open my hack, extract my ExGFX and redo the custom palletes, there's not much I can do about it, except bask in my own ego for creating something rippable. Level thieves, however, are butts.

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Originally posted by Kyouji Craw

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And Nintendo hand-made all of their stuff, and I believe we've already established that there isn't really a difference between taking a company's stuff and taking a person's stuff

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Originally posted by peter_ac

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And also, a HUGE thanks goes out to everyone who voted that i suck! But... I made the poll, so i can edit the poll!

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That said, people who rip graphics from commercial games are wankers who don't care for such ideals any how. And in that regard, I'd say feel free to treat them how they treat others? Can't say that I would do any such thing, personally. It just means they have no right to complain if you steal the art that they stole elsewhere.

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Once again. People rip because they can't draw their own GFX. I don't care if someone takes what I've taken from other games, but I don't really want people taking my own GFX. (I can't stop them, though... )

And I'm sure peter edited the poll as a joke, Parasyte. It does not make him suck more or less.

Sorry if I'm sounding like an asshole, but I've had a shitty week so far. I apologize if I've offended anybody in advance.