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Posted on 03-28-05 04:56 PM Link | Quote
Sony has been sued and ordered to halt US sales of PlayStation/PlayStation 2 and over 40 game titles...

Article at ABC Online Australia
BBC Article
Japan Today

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Hmm... interesting stuff.

... I didn't find a thread about this elsewhere... which seems odd. Saw this on slashdot earlier, too.
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Posted on 03-28-05 05:03 PM Link | Quote
Saw it yesterday on slashdot...

...been too many patent issues lately. And usually silly ones too. I wonder if there is going to be stop on thoose law-suits.
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When I saw it on Slashdot, it was top story, I think that was this morning. I was in a channel and let the people there know, but the story on Slashdot was kinda flaky so didn't post anything here till I found more stuff.

I wonder how they actually impose this? Pull all playstations from stores?
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Posted on 03-28-05 05:11 PM Link | Quote
I seriously doubt that they would pull PS2 sales in US. But you never know with them... in worst case they just redesign the damn controllers who are an patent infrigment.

And exactly what is the copyright infrigment on thoose controllers?
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Posted on 03-28-05 07:59 PM Link | Quote
The copyright thing is the rumble feature and the even worse thing is that they probaply can sue nintendo to then.
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Posted on 03-28-05 08:54 PM Link | Quote
This rumble feature goes WAY back. I think in the late 80s there were objects that did rumbles in conjuction with movies. Or they even had arcade machines that had the steering wheel give feed back in the early 90s. It is a lame suit and really won't hold water
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Posted on 03-28-05 09:12 PM Link | Quote
From what I read, Nintendo and Microsoft have nothing to worry about - Nintendo was smart enough to license the technology when the N64 Rumble Pak was released, while Microsoft was threatened with a lawsuit but ended up just licensing the technology instead.
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So...They wait until NOW to launch the lawsuit. This...I don't know. Decade long wait is probably going to hurt their case.
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Posted on 03-28-05 09:58 PM Link | Quote
I've read the ban on sales won't actually take effect until after Sony's appeal.

Still, very interesting to say the least.
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Originally posted by Ziffski
So...They wait until NOW to launch the lawsuit. This...I don't know. Decade long wait is probably going to hurt their case.


If you paid attention to the article carefully, you know that they already won their case. That is why Sony is appealing.
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Posted on 03-29-05 08:35 AM Link | Quote
And by the time the appeal goes through, the ban might prove to be a moot point - unless, of course, Sony keeps using the same bloody technology for the PS3. That would be a smart move. *rolls eyes*
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Posted on 03-29-05 09:09 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Apophis
Originally posted by Ziffski
So...They wait until NOW to launch the lawsuit. This...I don't know. Decade long wait is probably going to hurt their case.


If you paid attention to the article carefully, you know that they already won their case. That is why Sony is appealing.


Yes in law issues like this are brought up in the appeals court. That's why I said it
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Posted on 03-29-05 03:33 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ziffski
So...They wait until NOW to launch the lawsuit. This...I don't know. Decade long wait is probably going to hurt their case.


They launched it a while ago, years ago even, it's results are just coming into fruition now.

Nintendo got the rights to "Rumble" back when they bundled the first Rumble Pak with StarFox 64. Microsoft just payed them off. Typical. And, finally, poor Sony is the one getting hit. And hard.

I doubt they'll have to take the PlayStation games with Dual Shock and Dual Shock controllers of the market though, it's too late for that. Maybe the PS3 will just have controllers that do not have a rumble feature. I don't think this would be such a BIG deal, honestly.
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Posted on 03-29-05 09:06 PM Link | Quote
You have to consider looking at this in a business sense. You say its too late to take Dual Shock games and controllers off the Market, but they can pull all of the new ones and stop production.
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Posted on 03-29-05 09:30 PM Link | Quote
I also do find it funny that it took one firm about 10 years to realize their technology was "stolen." My question is how can montetary losses be repaid? I mean, suppose Sony did license the technology to begin with? I would think Sony would given them a lump sum far less than $90 million and that's it. In addition, it could also be the case the Sony developed the technology independently, which I think will be more of the case.

also, I wonder how Immersion Corp is doing--i think they are desperate...
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Posted on 03-30-05 12:16 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kirby PopStarMicrosoft just payed them off. Typical.


...Wow. I'm not going to flame you, but I'm going to explain something to you.

In business, people have to buy and sell commodities. In the same way that Microsoft purchased technology and fast tracked their system (which has saved them money over all and allowed them to stay int he market). Nintendo decided to "develop" the technology. Guess what? Nintendo just paid those people off. Typical.

Yawn.
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I can't think of any large company NOT doing what Microsoft did. Ethically, it's probably wrong but business operates differently than how we interact with each other. What Microsoft did was smart since there was practially no publicity over it and the other dealings. If you can give me one company that won't pay people off when something bad is going to happen, then you win...
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Posted on 03-30-05 08:32 AM Link | Quote
You're reading what I typed all wrong! I didn't mean it was typical of Microsoft, I just meant it was typical business fare. Like... "That's fine, Microsoft just took the route of paying the company". Which is why I said "poor Sony". I don't think Microsoft did anything wrong, but Sony who isn't in a position to pay these people is getting screwed.

It didn't take the firm 10 years to realize it. Like I said, the results of the law suit are only coming into fruition now.
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Posted on 03-30-05 08:35 AM Link | Quote
Thanks for clearing that up, and sorry
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Posted on 03-30-05 09:41 AM Link | Quote
Nintendo licensed, Microsoft settled, Sony got the shaft. Based on articles I read, that sums up the entire issue quite nicely.
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