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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 1215/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I've been thinking about Optimism vs Pessimism. Does it look like I have it right? An optimist will value happiness over understanding. They will filter out the painful truth through apathy or denial and will only let in the happy truths. They will feed on the "happy truth"s and not let the darkness of the world bother them. Pros to having an attitude such as this are having a feeling of being at peace with your environment and not letting bad things get you down. Cons to this are: If an optimist cannot find "happy truth"s then they will restort to making up their own versions of the truth. An optimist may deny the evil in the world and deny the evil in themselfs, leaving no room for self-improvement. If the painful truth presents itself as undeniable or unignorable, the optimist will most likely resort to some sort of escape from the reality that they have just seen a glimpse of, whether it be alchahol, drugs, sex, or suicide. A pessimist values understanding over happiness. They will accept the whole bigger picture and try to get a good view on it. Seeing on how the world is filled with darkness, the pessimist will often feel overwhelmed by the painful truths. They also might try and fix the problems they see around them. They might be seen as dwelling in negativity, but seeing how there is no reason to fix what isnt broken, negativity is the only thing that can be attempted to be solved, which gives the impression that the pessimist dwells on negativity. Pro's to being a pessimist are knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. A pessimist may accept the fact that there is evil and try to deviate from it. Cons to being a pessimist are understanding the darkness that is society and the world and inside the person's own heart, causing feelings of self-loathing and a resentment towards society. |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 1340/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| You understand that those are complete opinions and biases, and won't work in every situation. The words have definitions, you know. You are right, in some aspects and in some occasions, but it wouldn't be right to generalize in such a way. |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 1216/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by windwaker It's just my opinions on my observations that I make on people. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 1613/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| ... why is this in World Affairs/Debate? Anyways, I think you're definitely over generalising. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 8910/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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You can never say it's definate when it come to personality traits. I would call myself an optimist but that's becuse how I work. I get sad over something for half a hour as most or even shorter and then I think "It's just not the biggest thing in the world" and forget about it or tries to actually do something about it. But I don't ignore the truth, I just try to take my way around it. And surpringly it works most of the times.  I do escape from reality at times, sure but eh... I wouldn't say that optimists does suicide. And there is severeal types of Optimism and Pessimism. Basically they're just basic personality traits, which there is alot variations of... |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 8599/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 3380/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Tarale Concurred. I'm booting this out of my jurisdiction and into the jurisprudence of YD in General. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 5535/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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 Bob the Hamster wins. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 3399/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| AHAHAHHAHAHHAHA. It's funny...Because it's making an intelligent point! (edited by Ziffski on 03-27-05 01:49 PM) |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 1221/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| This really isnt much of a generalisation of people and is more of an analysation of the people around me. | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 3401/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| And then projecting it on a wider range of people. That is a story book generalization my friend. | |||
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 1222/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Ziffski The difference is I KNOW there's more to it than this. I KNOW that there will be people who are going to not fit either of these. I KNOW that this is probably wrong in some ways. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1288/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Can you stop quoting people that posted last? Neb sounds like a pessimistic person... he sees that view as the correct one, and optimism as the wrong one. I prefer to see things as they are, but I'm usually optimistic.  |
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Kario In Possession of a Stolen Shovel Level: 65 Posts: 1567/2082 EXP: 2321379 For next: 14249 Since: 03-15-04 From: Texas... Yeehaw! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 17 hours |
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Originally posted by NebetsuOriginally posted by Ziffski OK, you say this, yet your first post says "Does it look like I have it right?" |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 1223/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by KarioOriginally posted by NebetsuOriginally posted by Ziffski It was more of a: "Tell me what I'm doing wrong" thing. |
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53  Posts: 719/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Man, I think that definition of pessimism fits me to a T.  |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 1224/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by BMF54123 See? That must mean that even though that there are more people than these two catagories, I must have something right with these two catagories. |
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Cruel Justice XD Level: 55  Posts: 749/1384 EXP: 1253266 For next: 60923 Since: 03-20-04 From: Darkwoods Penetentiary Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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Overall I think the comparison is quite hypothetical. Don't ask me why, I'll confuse myself.  Pessimism tends to cause heart problems and shortens your life expectancy. A pessimistic attitude does'nt just come out of the blue. It usually develops from stress, depression, or boredom. These factors cause your blood pressure to rise and stay at an unhealthy rate and it eventually clogs your arteries, which can increase the risk of a heart attack. Optimism causes people to lose focus of reality. Although it's pleasurable to have, it's not always safe. You'll do stupid things and think it's alright when it actually isn't. You can get stuck in sticky situations much easier. Eventually you lie to yourself and your perspective becomes distorted. But you won't feel any pain from your wrong-doings, so go you! |
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Zem You can be civil without being flowery, dipshits. Level: 49 Posts: 989/1107 EXP: 829398 For next: 54485 Since: 06-13-04 Since last post: 131 days Last activity: 131 days |
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| I think you both (Cruel Justice and Nebetsu) have a pessimistic view of optimism. =D I consider myself an optimist. All that means to me is that I think things tend to work out for the best. I'm talking about in one's life, not necessarily in the world as a whole. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 5561/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| So Cruel Justice, are you saying boredom kills? |
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