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Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Super Mario World hacking - We Need A Fix For The Bowser's Bowling Ball In Normal Levels. | | | |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 1055/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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I was searching for games to rip BG's from for my hack, and came across a few games that use falling rocks. I think Atma X used rocks in his hack that were supposed to fall from the sky and roll along the ground like Bowser's Bowling Ball (BBB). However, BBB doesn't work in normal levels so this wasn't possible. Anyway, my question is, with all the new programs and everything that has been found recently (for sprites mainly), could someone create a patch that will allow BBB to be used in regular levels with no glitches? I have a feeling BBB uses Mode 7 because it rotates while it rolls, so that may be a huge problem. But again, if someone could create a patch with BBB working in normal levels, that would be awesome!!! |
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Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 653/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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I don't think it rotates, I think it just flips it's graphics, which any old sprite can do. What's the sprite code for Bowser's Ball? | |||
Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57 Posts: 264/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Probably for the ball you would have to use the extra chuck sprite and redo the GFX. The ball would use Mode 7 because without it it would need about 180 different pieces of tile just to get a quarter of the white shine's rotation. I don't think it would be possible to use the BBB in a normal level | |||
Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 1056/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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The sprite number in LM, using Insert-Sprite, is either AA or AB. I am pretty sure its AA tho (I dont have access to LM right now sorry). | |||
Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN Posts: -2287/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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Originally posted by DarkflightUh, no? You could just H or V flip (or both) the tiles to create the illusion of it rotating, like JJ said. |
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Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 655/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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The sprite was A1, incidentally. Bowser's Balls (right click and save as) A simple graphics change, and zowee! Bowser's Balls in a normal level. They don't exactly have the functionality one would hope for, but that's nothing a little (or a lot) of ASM hacking can't fix. |
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Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 1058/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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Wow man. In just a few hours you make the bowsers ball useable in normal levels! I am happy. The only problem I have now is that to use it I would need to start my hack over again. I made a backup of my current hack, patched it, and it messed EVERYTHING up! Luckly it was a backup, so it doesn't matter tho. And sorry for the wrong information, I didn't have LM at the time so I had to try and remember from memory Good job with this!!!! Edit: Is it possible to patch this to an already hacked game without messing anything up? My hack has only 1 or 2 actual hex edits and both are sprites (using Smallhackers program). And it is 1 player game with soon to be edited status bar and such. (edited by Keikonium on 03-24-05 09:50 PM) |
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Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 658/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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It actually only took a couple minutes, and it was just a graphics hack. | |||
Keikonium Banned Level: NAN Posts: 1059/-2459 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 04-02-04 Since last post: 63 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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really? I have tried different sets and level types (got the real graphics working), but the ball always falls thru the level and disappears, or doesn't show up at all. Anyway, I will check out to see what you have done and just do that in my hack....thanks JJ! | |||
HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3908/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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His balls drop to a specific height, because the platform in the last battle is actually a sprite so they can't do collision detection. If someone could hack them to do proper collision detection with layers 1/2 (maybe disabling the 'stop at x height' for all levels except the last battle), that'd be awesome. Then we could all play with Bowser's balls. | |||
Glyph Phoenix Level: 39 Posts: 147/745 EXP: 385876 For next: 18895 Since: 11-07-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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We need a warning in the title of this thread. Something like (Warning: Contains bad jokes) |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 809/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Glyph Phoenix I actually had to laugh; fortunately in German you would have to replace "balls" by "eggs" to have the joke take effect The balls might be interesting if they had additional effects added, like increasing the speed or even collision with walls, thus reversing the direction the ball rolls |
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Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57 Posts: 274/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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yeah. Anyways, I think the ball falls to a certain height that is in the top subscreen, where you fight bowser. If you guys placed the ball below that, that could cause problems. | |||
HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3951/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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...Unless you placed it above a hole. I assume it'd just fall, so it could be a trap! | |||
Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57 Posts: 280/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Yea, falling roof sections. Not really, but with the right GFX and disabled mode 7 use in a normal level... You might even be able to use it on a real SNES! | |||
Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 677/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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You would have to remap the Map16 for something like that as it uses flipped tiles like they're going out of style. | |||
Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57 Posts: 281/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Oops, I messed up- the ball doesn't use mode 7, it just flips certain tiles. sorry. Apart from no object collision detection, there aren't that many problems with using the ball in a normal level, are there? |
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