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windwaker

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Posted on 03-05-05 06:55 AM Link | Quote
New layout, I made everything from scratch (even the planet ), except for the actual idea, which I stole from everyone (mainly Vystrix).

Originally posted by windwaker
Li Europan lingues es membres del sam familie. Lor separat existentie es un myth. Por scientie, musica, sport etc., li tot Europa usa li sam vocabularium. Li lingues differe solmen in li grammatica, li pronunciation e li plu commun vocabules. Omnicos directe al desirabilit


(edited by windwaker on 03-04-05 09:57 PM)
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Posted on 03-05-05 08:20 AM Link | Quote
That looks pretty nice Definitely a change from your other layout. At first when I went into this thread, I thought I was looking at someone else's post, as I was expecting to see the mIRC stuff The transparency of the blocks looks nice as well, so good work there

The changed blockquotes reminded me that I still have to get around to modifying my own Nothing really different there from the rest of the layout, except for the colors, although it does go pretty nicely on the blue background.

Nice work on the layout altogether

Edit: You may also want to fix your custom title. The stuff that used to be inside the angled brackets is gone now.


(edited by Karadur on 03-05-05 12:21 AM)
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Posted on 03-05-05 01:26 PM Link | Quote
That looks pretty nice... very clean and simple. Other than the big planet design in the background, I don't really see how it's a "ripoff" of mine, especially since yours uses more elaborate designs (bordering around blockquotes, transluscency, etc). Still, I appreciate the gesture.

I should probably re-work mine sometime.
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Posted on 03-05-05 08:49 PM Link | Quote
nice layout, nice choice of colors, can't say anything really bad about it, but still something is missing... 9.9/10
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Posted on 03-06-05 08:02 PM Link | Quote
Good. But which IRC client is this? I don't recognize it
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Posted on 03-06-05 10:57 PM Link | Quote
Looks good, but you can't really see the planet all that much.
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Posted on 03-06-05 11:02 PM Link | Quote
Right, you won't be able to if you're using IE. Because IE sucks.
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Posted on 03-06-05 11:10 PM Link | Quote
This layout looks really good and I like the colors.

"Right, you won't be able to if you're using IE. Because IE sucks."

Hum-di-dum.
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Posted on 03-07-05 02:41 AM Link | Quote
Looks really nice and clean. But IE has trouble rendering semi-transparency in PNGs so it looks pretty bad in IE. But you could use IE specific css (a la * html) and use the alpha filter. Then it would look good in all browsers.
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Posted on 03-07-05 02:56 AM Link | Quote
It doesn't look bad in IE, it's just a solid text area which looks kind of plain. I'd advise against forcing IE to use the filter, because it makes the text translucent too and nobody wants that.
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Posted on 03-07-05 03:45 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
Good. But which IRC client is this? I don't recognize it


It's this uberkewl mIRC skin. <3

But you could use IE specific css (a la * html) and use the alpha filter.

Yes, but wouldn't that make it not work in Firefox, as Firefox doesn't have support for alpha in CSS?
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Posted on 03-07-05 03:59 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by windwaker
Originally posted by Jesper
Good. But which IRC client is this? I don't recognize it


It's this uberkewl mIRC skin. <3

But you could use IE specific css (a la * html) and use the alpha filter.

Yes, but wouldn't that make it not work in Firefox, as Firefox doesn't have support for alpha in CSS?
Well unless Firefox shits itself when it comes across code it doesn't support, you shouldn't have much of a problem.

I wouldn't know, though, having not had the chance to use Firefox.
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Posted on 03-07-05 04:12 AM Link | Quote
No, it wouldn't be Firefox's fault (as much as you'd love it to be), it would be conflicting CSS. It's like me saying that I want the background to be transparent purple, and I'd also like the background to be an image.
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Posted on 03-07-05 04:43 AM Link | Quote
Just put the competent browser part in a selector that looks like this:

html > my-class-shit-here { myruleshere }

And the last-updated-in-2001 browser part in a selector that looks like this:

* html my-class-shit-here { myruleshere }
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Posted on 03-07-05 01:49 PM Link | Quote
For those bereft of both user-agent competence and bereft of knowledge of said bereavement, this is how the evil hippie commie pinko liberal Firefox v1.0, in particular, handles one of the very things MSIE doesn't:

Originally posted by windwaker
Screenshot of windwaker's layout in Firefox 1.0
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That's 100% standards-compliant (minus the lack of compliance imposed by the acmlmboard codebase) PNG transluscency there, boys and girls. No browser-specific CSS gobbledygook, just straight-up transluscency in accordance with the Standards.

Firefox handles it; Opera handles it; Konqueror handles it; Safari handles it; Galeon handles it; Mozilla Suite handles it; even Netscape nowadays handles it. MSIE does not handle it. MSIE fails to observe the Standard. There are kludgy workarounds (not a single one of which will work in a browser that's not MSIE, let alone be anywhere near Standard), but no real standards observance. (As an aside, it doesn't really matter if you do need all this CSS "filter" DirectX crap to get a reasonable facsimile of competence out of MSIE's PNG renderer... just have the browser invoke these things itself when it encounters a PNG image with transluscency... but adding alpha-channel support to icons and cursors in XP was more important).

The more people that continue to cling to their Microsoft-provided security blankets, the longer its stagnating will continue to hold back the web from advancing.

Firefox has advanced. Opera has advanced. All those other browsers have advanced. MSIE stopped advancing when it wasn't profitable anymore, back in 2001; in the time since it has delved out a pittance of minor updates adding features the other browsers had a long, long time ago, and those who don't know any better consider this to be advancement when, in reality, they're just getting the scraps left over from the banquet.

I for one am not satisfied with scraps. Maybe you are, I don't know, but I'm not. We have so much to give to you, give to you asking nothing in return, if only you will take it! It will benefit you and it will, to a degree, benefit everybody.

</semi-off-topic rant>
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Posted on 03-08-05 03:47 AM Link | Quote
If I used IE, I would totally be pwned.

I guess I won't waste my time making it look nice for the IE users. ;D
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Posted on 03-08-05 06:01 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, it looks awesome. Don't lower yourself.
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Posted on 03-08-05 07:23 AM Link | Quote
Alright, I'm sick of this browser bashing bullshit.

I use IE. It works well enough for what I need it to do. I don't need every page to look perfect, as long as it's readable. Which, most of the time, it is; the only exceptions are due more to shitty layouts and color choices than my choice of browser - or, because of assholes blocking IE from viewing their site.

You'll disagree with me, fine. Don't really care, honestly. I just figured I'd throw in my off-topic-two-cents, since everyone else was.

But, back on topic, good job on the layout, ww. Even though it doesn't work perfectly in IE, it still looks good. If only I could see more layouts that work that well.
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Posted on 03-08-05 07:57 AM Link | Quote
Browser bashing? Yes, that was browser bashing. People using IE? Were we bashing people using IE? No, we were bashing IE and Microsoft for it.
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Posted on 03-08-05 07:55 PM Link | Quote
It is a really great layout, went and checked it out in IE, doesn't look bad there either, but definitely looks better in firefox.
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