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Posted on 02-23-05 08:10 PM Link | Quote
Lower prices over the line (except the shuffle) and new models of the mini and photo.

iPod mini [green, blue, pink, gray; 18 hour battery]
4GB: $199
6GB: $249

iPod
20GB: $299

iPod photo [new 30GB model that's a one-platter drive - as thick as the ordinary iPod]
30GB: $349
60GB: $449

There'll also be an iPod Camera Connector for $29, and it will connect your camera (duh) to the iPod photo so that you can actually unload the photos on your camera to the iPod.


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Posted on 02-23-05 08:51 PM Link | Quote
You elitest hippie leftist commie bastard who posts commercials for an evil company!!!

...well, I have actually considered to by a iPod for my sister as a gift. Probably a iPod mini since thoose are cheaper... not shuffle thought.
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Posted on 02-23-05 08:55 PM Link | Quote
I'm strongly considering the 30GB iPod photo. I've wanted it before, but before today the lowest one was 40GB and $499 (vs $349 today) and it was *thick* thick. The 30GB model is as thick as my current 15GB 3G iPod is, it's newer too (surprise?) and I'm the kind of guy that's willing to blow an extra $50 (compared to the 20GB iPod) to get photo features I may use in the future. I'm also the kind of guy that's a sucker for color screens. So there.
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Posted on 02-23-05 11:07 PM Link | Quote
the 20GB fourth generation is the same price I paid for it.... As for affordability, I know several people who won't pay for it just because it's too expensive.

I'm not desparate to get an iPod photo. I considered it once for the Doom port that'll be going once iPodLinux supports the fourth generation (and thus, iPod photo)... but I think I'm not desparate enough for Doom to pay the extra $50
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Posted on 02-23-05 11:33 PM Link | Quote
Canadian pricing:

iPod Mini: $249/$319 (4GB/6GB)
iPod: $379
iPod Photo: $439/$569 (30GB/60GB)

They're slowly getting to my price range...
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Posted on 02-24-05 03:36 AM Link | Quote
Eww, 16-bit colour... I'll wait until someone makes an MP3 player/image viewer for DS.
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Posted on 02-24-05 03:43 AM Link | Quote
Um, you can do a lot with 16-bit color.
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Posted on 02-24-05 03:44 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Eww, 16-bit colour...
Better than 2-bit greyscale.

I don't think an additional $50 to get a color screen and 50% more storage in is a bad value at all when it comes to the 30GB vs the 20GB. It's the best "additional $50" in the whole chain, unless you're 100% all about storage, in which case the leap from 6GB to 20GB from the 6GB mini to the 20GB is the best. Seriously, I think their pricing is really starting to come together now. (Mostly) Leaps of $50 is so much better than (mostly) leaps of $100.
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Posted on 02-24-05 03:53 AM Link | Quote
Man, I haven't had my iPod for 8 months.... and now I want the iPod Photo..... grr....

Apple, stop making me spend my money dammit!!
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Posted on 02-24-05 03:54 AM Link | Quote
Well, MP3 playback is nothing to boast about. Even the GBA can do it...

Last I heard, iPod photo sucked. At least according to a magazine I read.

And ehh, why should I honestly get iPod photo?
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Posted on 02-24-05 03:56 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
And ehh, why should I honestly get iPod photo?


Porn, d'uh!
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Posted on 02-24-05 03:57 AM Link | Quote


Wouldn't that make it the iPorn ?

I have absolutely no use for the Photo properties of iPod Photo. Doesn't stop me wanting it.
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Posted on 02-24-05 04:19 AM Link | Quote
Seriously... unless that Doom port ends up being mind-blowing (which it probably won't), I ain't getting a photo.

HH: What's wrong with 16-bit colour?
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Posted on 02-24-05 04:20 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer
Well, MP3 playback is nothing to boast about. Even the GBA can do it...

Last I heard, iPod photo sucked. At least according to a magazine I read.

And ehh, why should I honestly get iPod photo?
It was basically a "bum of the year" according to a swedish tech paper - "Ny teknik" (I'm not even going to bother translating that.)

And I agree - it was:
- No video. People wanted video. I want video. Screw the fact that I don't have anything to stick on it - if it can play audio and show color pixels, video *should* be in. (The practical reasons, aside from the legal reason (ripping a DVD is illegal in the US from what I know) are that QuickTime doesn't support DivX, Xvid, WMV and newer versions of Flash and I don't think they'd implement it on the photo and not add it to QT, and that the display's too small.)
- No way to add new photos to the mix. There is now.
- Vastly overpriced - when a normal 40GB iPod cost $499, a 40GB iPod photo cost $599. As much as I love color screens, I wouldn't even begin to talk about that as a reasonable jump in price unless I was also a real shutterbug. This is now fixed.
- Thicker than normal iPods. Two-platter drives to blame here. Partially fixed with the 30GB model (which is why they cancelled the 40GB model - it's presumably very costly in a single-platter version).
- Designed with the assumption that you're going to use it as much for photos as for audio playback. This was very very wrong. The money in the iPod has always been about a nice interface to listening to music. They crammed some Extras in there too, which are neat, but none of them were ever even part of the focus. Including a dock with S-video jacks and a video cable is nice but costly, and the marketing would have you believe it's all about playing slideshows. Like the games on the little bugger, it's nice, but it's far from it. I think they've toned the web site back enough to have soberly reflected on this, and the video cable and "photo dock" are both out of the standard box, which helped bring down the price.

What I don't like about the new one is that they also cut the FireWire cable (they only supply USB2 cables now) and the cheap but non-sucky case from the box. I can see the reasons and I agree that it's a good sacrifice to bring down the price, but I still don't like it.
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Posted on 02-24-05 04:56 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jesper
(ripping a DVD is illegal in the US from what I know)

It's still debated ... though, the general thing is that it's OK to copy a DVD if you don't redistribute it illegally.
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Posted on 02-24-05 07:11 AM Link | Quote
I can't see the reason why you'd want a portable photo album... I guess maybe to replace all those pictures some people have in their wallets?

My guess is that most people who'll buy the 60GB iPod Photo are people who just want the extra HD space for their music. And if they can afford it, there's nothing wrong with that.
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Posted on 02-24-05 07:22 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colleen
I can't see the reason why you'd want a portable photo album... I guess maybe to replace all those pictures some people have in their wallets?

My guess is that most people who'll buy the 60GB iPod Photo are people who just want the extra HD space for their music. And if they can afford it, there's nothing wrong with that.


My mum would love a portable photo album. She shows off her photos at any chance she has, now that she has a digital camera she's ALWAYS getting new photos to show people too.....

She'd LOVE an iPod photo, she'd be showing everybody her happy snaps.
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Posted on 02-24-05 07:29 AM Link | Quote
Well that does make sense. I mean, rather than lugging a photo album to a friend's house/on vacation, you could just load up pictures on that. Understood.

But for a lot of people... *shrugs* If I could afford an iPod, I'd definitely get the 60GB iPod Photo but mainly for the storage space.
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Posted on 02-24-05 08:24 AM Link | Quote
ehh...still too expensive; i commute every day and I could sure use an iPod because it's a lot easier to carry around. I wonder how long it'll be before apple slashes prices again... probably then, i'll get an iPod (but then, maybe that point I won't have a use for it XD)
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Posted on 02-24-05 02:29 PM Link | Quote
If it's just a little "too expensive", you may qualify for a student discount (around 10%).
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